Rewatch S6: The Man Who Would Be King (6.20)

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Ok, now we get to Castiel. Let's see what he's been up to...

Some notes:
1)Clothing was easy for the Winchesters - the problem was remembering to pay attention to them. :P
2)Man, this episode is HORRIBLY DEPRESSING. I would offer to give Castiel a hug, but it'd be the most awkward hug ever...and I've had some pretty awkward hugs.

Comments

[4422shini]

Interesting review

[hells_half_acre]

Haha, yeah, that's what I love about Supernatural too. Things can be similar in motif, but go a completely different direction than what you are expecting

[ramblin_rosie]

that Dean knows best and can do no wrong
See, therein lies the problem. We all have to remember that our heroes are human. Even King David, renowned as a man after God's own heart, fell waaay short of being perfect. Dean is all the things I mentioned in my other comment, and I do side with him more often than not, but he's still flawed and fallible.

[hells_half_acre]

Indeed!

I always find with Supernatural that it's not the show that annoys me (not at all), it's portions of the fandom (even though it is the best fandom that I've ever come across)...but yeah, there are just these people who seem to think that if something goes wrong, it must be all Sam/Cas's fault, because there is no possible way it could be Dean's, the perfect being that he is. And, well, no one should be put on that kind of pedestal, let alone someone as broken and fallible as Dean Winchester.

[ramblin_rosie]

The thing that still bothers me (and it's probably supposed to) is that Cas, acknowledging that he'd already failed to notice the warning sign when RoboSam walked away from Dean without making contact, asks for a sign immediately after Dean--Righteous Man, Michael Sword, true servant of Heaven, THAT Dean--has just told him not to go through with his plan and used a very New Testament definition of free will to do it.
That's why I don't have a problem with Dean calling Cas a child in 7.01-2. Cas is acting a lot like a human child here; he knows deep down that Dean is right, but he doesn't want to hear it, so he ignores Dean's answer and gets himself into trouble that even Dean can't fix.

[hells_half_acre]

Yes, exactly! That's basically what I meant by my comment on Cas's line about asking for a sign, but you said it much more eloquently than I did, of course.

[franztastisch]

Name check! *fist pump*

Totally should have dumped my verbal diarrhoea about angels and Free Will and everything here. Much more suitable place. :P

[hells_half_acre]

Haha, obviously I'm just not getting these things up fast enough ;)

[franztastisch]

Or my brain is a mess. :P

[katsheswims]

"Haha, but why is Sam Lois Lane?" They probably made the joke because of Sam's hair-the ongoing girl joke.

""Wonders never cease, they trusted me again. But it was just another lie."
-This is interesting, because Castiel feels that them NOT calling him out right away is them lying to him...except lying is a betrayal of trust, usually....and well, Castiel really isn't a position to get disappointed in them for it, yet he seems to." I think actually Cas is referring to their trust on him being based on a lie. But I could be wrong.

I love your thoughts. I had a lot of similar ones. I agree with Cas being like a child in ways and how heartbreaking this was for Dean in this episode. I don't feel much sympathy for Cas.

[hells_half_acre]

Oh, you could be right about that line from Cas...and the joke being about how Sam is a woman.

I feel sympathy for both of them, but my sympathy for Cas is more along the lines of "oh sweetheart, you are an idiot."

[galwithglasses]

I love that Crowley is just so good at his job. His new and improved Hell waiting line is awesome. I like it that he's realistic about his chances when it comes to Sam and Dean. His denim-clad comment is a pretty big put down from someone who was a tailor and cares enough about style to have had his own tailor later.

Sometimes not getting a sign is the sign, Cas. Or sometimes you get a bunch of signs that point out the edge of the cliff and if you still head to the cliff because you don't like what the sign says, you're probably going to fall off. This is especially true when the signs are being held by people who've already fallen over it, some more than once.

Dean spends a lot of time calling Cas a child and it's interesting in light of 7.04 about how Dean says Sam and Jo were just kids, hunters aren't kids, and that he was never a kid. He's been pretty rough with Cas. While it probably would have been more helpful to take a different approach, I can see why Dean reacted the way he did. It's a pretty typical Dean response.

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I love that Crowley is just so good at his job. His new and improved Hell waiting line is awesome. I like it that he's realistic about his chances when it comes to Sam and Dean.

Yes, this is why I think he's one of the more compelling villains so far.

He didn't go hang out with Dean while he was at Lisa's and Dean has never done well with being left behind by family. Cas wasn't able to help with Sam's soul either and he knew about Sam being back and he didn't tell Dean. Everything going on hits a lot of buttons for Dean that have him verbally lashing out. He's not a great communicator to begin with and add a layer of hurt on that and it's even worse. I also don't think he believed Cas could go that far off the reservation. When Dean finally saw that Cas was making some truly awful choices, he tried pretty hard to soften his approach and remind Cas about family ties, which for Dean are a prime motivator.

YES, I agree with all of this.

Hope you enjoy your sleep!