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borgmama1of5 October 21 2012, 09:14:51 UTC
I like your explanation for Hallucifer being part of Sam's mind, and how Cas 'took' the damage. You have a lot of thinky stuff in this analysis...And I love how you describe Dean's expressions making a whole conversation, because Jensen does that all the time, and it's why he is such a rivieting actor.

I'd love to read the trenchcoat scene original dialog--is there a link to the pages that were revised?

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hells_half_acre October 21 2012, 10:23:17 UTC
The original tumblr that posted it has moved or been deleted. But I did find someone who made a graphic out of the missing dialogue. Originally when Dean handed back the trenchcoat, he said this: http://andthenicrieduglytears.tumblr.com/post/25259258333/to-commemorate-the-original-dialogue-for-7x17-born

They've joked before at ComicCon that they could probably shoot a whole episode without dialogue between Sam and Dean and still have them "talk" - and I REALLY WISH THEY WOULD. It would be amazing...even though it would be next to impossible for me to do a rewatch of it in this format :P

I'm glad you like my explanation for how Cas "took" the damage. It leads to all sorts of possible AUs in my mind - like the fact that even in Purgatory, Cas might be able to tell how Sam is doing. The possibilities are fun to think about.

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nanloo October 21 2012, 22:31:23 UTC
"Woe betide any man who gets between Dean Winchester and his brother ( ... )

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hells_half_acre October 21 2012, 22:44:59 UTC
Well, yeah, Castiel apologizes several times for doing this to Sam - so I think everyone is aware that this is his fault. Mind you, I also believe that this would have happened eventually anyway - Castiel just sped up the process. Dean could have had years with Sam before Sam's wall was crumbled to dust, but instead he just got one.

I think there's more to Sam's backstory than meets the eye, personally. I'm not calling character assassination until I get the full story - that being said, there's a great meta out there that actually explains how Sam's decision might still be in character. (http://zimshan.livejournal.com/248857.html)

Just for the record, I never liked this Meg. I liked Nicki Aycox. I also want to know why they keep referring to the demon as 'Meg'. Meg Masters was the young lady's real name.I know, that drives me nuts too. That being said - using a false name protects the demon. We know Crowley's name is actually Fergus, etc. So, whose to say that Ruby was ( ... )

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nanloo October 21 2012, 22:58:56 UTC
I wish that they would have a clear rule regarding demon names vs the poor victim names.
After eight years, you would think that they would have figured out what the rules were.

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hells_half_acre October 21 2012, 23:03:24 UTC
True, and in the most recent episode, an angel did it too - Samandriel introduced himself as his vessel's name when he spoke to Mrs. Tran.

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