Rewatch S15: Raising Hell (15x02)

Jan 20, 2023 21:26


She returns! I cracked open a can from the media and rolled the "what should I do tonight" dice, and for once it came up Supernatural - so here we go...

Just like last time, this will be a quick and dirty rewatch, where I'm not going to be pausing much to actually write out my thoughts in a coherent matter - so more in the style of how I rewatched ( Read more... )

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borgmama1of5 January 21 2023, 05:41:46 UTC
Oh dear. I just finished season 13's rewatch, and here you are writing everything I will be saying about the start of season 15. I may just have to copy/paste this review, you hit on all the highlights (lowlights?)

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hells_half_acre January 21 2023, 05:55:52 UTC

Haha, feel free to do a copy/paste :P And I'm sorry that I'm giving you things to "look forward" to.

I'm sure there will be some good bits in the season too, somewhere, I'm just not going to find any in a BuckLeming episode.

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galatera_grass January 21 2023, 18:15:39 UTC

I don't like Beckleming's episodes. They are always very crowded.

Maybe Chuck sent Kevin to hell for wanting to read the tablet? Because he wanted to correct history?

I didn't want Cus to be in the final - they started the story with the brothers and ended with the brothers too. And I'm not a fan of Cas' love for Dean. If we consider this from the very beginning of the series, then all the actions of Cas turn out to be too materialistic, for example, breaking down the wall in Sam's head. He didn't want Sam to be around Dean? Free Dean from the man for whom he is ready to turn the world upside down? I will believe that Cus accepted Dean as his best friend, as did Dean Casa.

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hells_half_acre January 21 2023, 19:25:18 UTC

That reading assumes Cas has had the same motivation the entire series though, which he clearly has not - given just how many iterations of personality and changes of motivation he's had over the 11 years that he was on the series.

Not that I'm arguing you should have the same opinion as I do - I definitely understand wanting to keep the finale to just Sam and Dean, but a lot of the problems I had with the finale - in my opinion - could have been solved with having Cas in there for a split second and maybe actually confirming or denying Dean's assumed heterosexuality, or even NOT, but confirming that he still loves Cas as a BFF.

That being said, I've always preferred angels as agender/asexuals - so to me the love isn't actually hinged on sexual attraction anyway, and for all that I don't like the finale, part of me does like the fact that I can continue to have that interpretation.

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galatera_grass January 21 2023, 21:34:44 UTC

That being said, I've always preferred angels as agender/asexuals - so to me the love isn't actually hinged on sexual attraction anyway, and for all that I don't like the finale, part of me does like the fact that I can continue to have that interpretation.

I would like to clarify. For me, angels are "light" that cannot be sexual. There is a contradiction between the body into which the angel entered and the thoughts of the angel himself. After all, Cas could enter the female body. To me, Cus's love is platonic, not erotic. Therefore, everything that comes after his disappearance does not require his presence. Cas died saving Dean and the people because Dean saved the world by staying alive. A tragic but heroic death, albeit badly written and acted. If you explain something, it will be superfluous, there will be even more questions.

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hells_half_acre January 21 2023, 21:56:59 UTC

Yeah, I think we'll just have to stay in disagreement on this one. Though, I think you're imagining what I want very different than what I actually wanted. I also don't think that Cas's death was badly acted, and it was possibly the one bit of writing that I actually liked - but we haven't actually gotten to that episode yet, so I could be completely remembering it wrong too.

We'll see when we get there, but the fun thing about TV shows is that two people can have vastly different experiences/interpretations when watching them - so it could very well be that while you and I are in agreement that angels aren't sexual beings, how that plays out when it comes to love might be very different.

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kazluvsbooks January 31 2023, 13:15:05 UTC
This ep was so baaad.
Must be in the top 10 worst eps of the series.

Ghosts in broad daylight, noooooooooooo.

And Sam and Dean were like extras, in their own show 😦

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hells_half_acre January 31 2023, 16:50:37 UTC

Yup! That's pretty much the summary. SO BAD. I'm really looking forward to when these first few eps are over in my rewatch. As far as I remember, I didn't like the third episode either... but I guess we'll see once I get some time to go through that one.

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