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Dec 09, 2008 07:35

No high-quality study done to date can document that having an abortion causes psychological distress, or a "post-abortion syndrome," and efforts to show it does occur appear to be politically motivated, U.S. researchers said on Thursday ( Read more... )

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herbatka December 9 2008, 08:42:21 UTC
Not saying I agree or disagree, just want to point out that this is about the long-term effects.

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alexisjulian December 9 2008, 21:39:00 UTC

There are many women who refuse to even talk about their experience or cannot without breaking down for their entire lives. The 13 year old in the case above could definitely be one of those people.

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teawithhoney December 9 2008, 15:45:43 UTC
coming from someone who (in high school) was in prolife club and once tried to argue this special kind of bullshit (until i took a third year of high school biology and decided i didn't believe in god or souls or... life in a bundle of cells)... i could never have an abortion. i know i'd feel like shit about it forever. i already have a probably associating dates with things that happened on them, and i just wouldn't be okay. but, i don't think the physical act of having an abortion causes a person to feel this way, i think it's a conscious thing that a woman could or would do (feel?) after having an abortion. i also think i'm wording this poorly. i guess i'm saying i agree with what you posted. to me, the way one feels after an abortion is not an effect of the abortion but an effect of the individual mind. or something like that. i have no idea where i'm going with this, haha.

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alexisjulian December 9 2008, 21:38:08 UTC

But it's a shitty way to argue because there is no dissociation from the physical experience to the mind, unless the operation is being conducted on a vegetable or someone who is unaware of the surgery. Like, okay, maybe the physical act of getting punched in the face isn't upsetting, but how do you dissociate the broken nose from the emotions of getting punched in the face? Same here. Getting a cluster of cells vacuumed out of you might not set the stage for the most emotionally traumatic experience, but everything IS in context. Thusly, it's a really strange way to argue.

Science is all about disproving though, not proving, so maybe they have to work that way? Idk.

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teawithhoney December 10 2008, 00:42:38 UTC
no, what i was saying was that in high school i argued that having an abortion was very likely to cause depression.

what i'm saying now is, well, technically that you're right. the actual abortion - "getting a cluster of cells vacuumed out of you" - does not make you depressed. like you said, its contextual... but regardless, it's the conscience; the individual thoughts.. that lead to mental suffering. not the physical act. the medical process is just that - a medical process. it's the ideas and triggers you associate with it that will probably cause upset; "i got rid of my potential child", etc...

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