Alexander's daughter???

May 22, 2006 13:52


This is the first time I've ever heard that Alexander had a daughter, but according to the genealogy tree (follow the link below!) he got her by Roxanne. The girl was married to Achaeus I Prince of Syria, who was Seleucus I Nikator' son, who was again Alexander companion. She had 4 children, of whom some ruled Syria.
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nuwasky May 22 2006, 16:12:01 UTC
OK I did another genealogy search using Achaeus I's name and this time got his wife as being named: "Aesopia the PERDICCID". Following this link: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jamesdow/s019/f325845.htm
about her, it does seem as though she could possibly be connected to Roxane OR Barsine and she does appear to be Alexander's daughter (?!), but it all seems like its a bit up in the air. If you click Roxane or Barsine it lists Aesopia as being their "possible" child. However Alexander always gets named as the father! He also seems to have another child called "Sophytes" as well.

I think the conclusion that because it's history no one can be really sure!

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khepri2 May 22 2006, 16:41:11 UTC
Never heard of a daughter(s) mentioned for him in any historian I have read in this country but I suppose they all could have had children along the line with the amount of women they came into contact with. What we need is some contempory sources - not stuff that was written 300 or 400 years after - and all those kings were desperate to link themselves to Alexander - what better way than to say you were married to his daughter?

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nuwasky May 22 2006, 16:52:21 UTC
Yes I agree with this... I think it pretty much goes the same way as all those stories about Alexander and Thalestris (The Queen of the Amazons), who knows if it actually happened or not.

Most of the sources about Alexander during his time are lost and we have people like Curtius walking about a hundred years later pandering to their own fertile imaginations to rely on lol.

As Khepri2 has said it could be very well be just those people trying to link themselves to Alexander or it could be true, but there's certainly no contemporary evidence to suggest that.

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heroineanilem May 22 2006, 19:37:36 UTC
I've thought of that possibility, too. Afterall, there's the idea that Ptolomey was Alexander's half-brother. Of course, it's not confirmed, but that means that through time there has been that notion. So, if Ptolomey could be related to Alexander, why not any other of companions or their offspring.

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coraldawn May 22 2006, 17:13:06 UTC
First I've heard of it. I doubt this story because the mother is listed as Barsine or Roxane. They were prominent mistress/wife, and a daughter by them would have been noted by everyone - including Chares, Aristobulos, Ptolemy et al. She could have been by a random mother - like Queen Cleophis' son (doubtful case) or even some of the children begotten in India. (It is interesting, though, that Barsine was with Alexander after her capture in Damascus, but had a son, Herakles, only around 327 BC or so, when she left to return to Western Asia. Could she perhaps have had a daughter with him before Herakles?)

Also, as pointed out above, why is this daughter listed as a Perdiccid? Was she perhaps descended from Philip II's brother, Perdicass?

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heroineanilem May 22 2006, 19:52:30 UTC
Personally, I think that most of those cases of speculative children were mere tries to connect to the great conqueror and/or show Alexander's virility by inventing offspring, when man himself seemed to be seen by his contemporaries as moderate when it came to sex8of course in conparison to men/kings of those day).

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coraldawn May 22 2006, 20:56:15 UTC
This woman, Aesopina, seems real enough, married to the second son of Seleucus Nikator, Achaeus, son of Seleucus' wife, Apame. I think there's a mistake about Aesopina's parentage in these genealogy searches. She was probably the daughter of some important Macedonian - otherwise why would Seleucus marry off his younger son to her? One one site, she is listed as born in 315 BC (which could be wrong too). So unless Alexander's ghost came back to Roxane to father a daughter..... ;)

If she is a Perdiccid, I wonder if she was a daughter of Perdicass, Alexander's companion, through his Susa wedding?

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heroineanilem May 23 2006, 12:25:27 UTC
That sounds reasonable enough. It's great that you could find the name of Achaeus' wife and approximate date of birth, though right now I'm getting more and more suspicios for the whole thing. I simply stubled across this info and there was no mention of her name and I haven't checked it out. So, are there 2 names for the same person (Acheus' wife? But, i'm really eager to find, if possible, how those persons got mixed up, it seems that it diddn't happen only through time and people's wish to realte to ATG, but actually nowdays, since there are different names, not only names of parents for the same person, out on the web. Re her beign Perdikkas' daughter, it might be, I think be can check if him and Selecus were fighting together at any point in the succession war.

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uh? parisad May 22 2006, 18:36:34 UTC
I have never heard that. I doubt to find something in sources about it. On the web you find everything and very often a site has not verifiable sources. I agree with Khepri2 about possible Alexander's daughters. In the sources about Alexander I didn't find any mention of daughter. Off course he could have had daughters, but an hypothesis without proofs or mentions in ancient sources is a mere possibility, nothing more.

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Re: uh? heroineanilem May 22 2006, 19:45:57 UTC
I know there's all kind of trash out on the net, but this doesn't look like someone's invention out of boredom. So, I'd really like to know where did they find that even if it's a speculative information and was there a posibility of misinterpretation, and if so, how it had occured.

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trust_n0_1 May 23 2006, 06:51:07 UTC
Hmmmm, never heard of it, but now that you mention it, I get an idea for a fic.....

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heroineanilem May 23 2006, 12:14:03 UTC
Great!so we're getting a new fic soon *puppy eyes* Never thought of being a muse, well a secondary one(since i don't belong to their time) :D

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