In search of female characters who don't get dickmatized

Dec 17, 2012 20:40

So you know that moment at the end of Season 2 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer when Buffy does that thing to Angel ( Read more... )

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hesychasm December 18 2012, 02:54:31 UTC
"I told him I loved him and kissed him. And then I killed him." IT SHOULD ALWAYS BE LIKE THAT!

CORRECT. NO LIES DETECTED. TEN POINTS TO GRYFFINDOR. YOU WIN THE INTERNETS. DROP THE MIKE, WE'RE DONE HERE.

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kita0610 December 18 2012, 03:12:28 UTC
YESSSSSSSS.

And when he comes back? HE GOES TO HIS KNEES FOR HER. AS IT SHOULD BE.

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hesychasm December 18 2012, 03:40:59 UTC
Ahahaha I need a drink.

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destina December 18 2012, 03:09:50 UTC
I had my bewildered face on throughout most of Homeland last night. The only thing I liked (well, like is the wrong word, but I don't have another) was the twisty thing with the car. But everything with Carrie and Brody I was just like...are you fucking kidding me? Where did my show go? Sigh.

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hesychasm December 18 2012, 03:37:56 UTC
I don't understand it either. Like, I was basically done with the show in the penultimate episode when [spoilers]Brody was all, "I killed the vice president for you" and Carrie looked at him with this lovey-dovey SMILE, but I thought, Maybe something will happen in the finale to redeem it. Maybe it'll turn out she's been playing him, or at the very least--the LEAST--she'll come to her fucking senses and turn him in.

But no. And now she's going to spend all next season trying to clear his name? FUCK. THAT.

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aud_woman_in December 26 2012, 19:53:05 UTC
I've been waiting to chime in 'til I finished S2, which I did over the weekend. I am seriously perplexed and not pleased. I started to wonder whether I'd missed something, like, did Carrie not know that Brody gave up the code that would kill Walden? But, no, wait, she was right there, and WTF? She goes from calling him a terrorist and a traitor to helping the guy dissapear? The complete lack of heat between them this season - the only thing that could've helped make a compelling case for a rank betrayal of Carrie's character - and the horrible, horrible dialogue in the finale didn't help. I'll probably check out the first episode or two next season out of curiosity, but if things stay batshitty, I'm gonna have to say buh-bye. *sigh* When did this stop being a show about a troubled, brilliant, but (mostly) principled woman?

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hesychasm December 27 2012, 15:44:10 UTC
When did this stop being a show about a troubled, brilliant, but (mostly) principled woman?

Yeah, I really don't know, but it's been so disappointing. I feel like I still don't really know when Carrie lost her head for Brody -- that interrogation scene between them was so brilliant and it was just this season. Then in a matter of episodes she's contemplating a happy future with him! After he murdered the vice president on Abu Nazir's orders! And the show's gotten so implausible on other levels -- the fact that the CIA lets Carrie run around being continually insubordinate when she doesn't even officially have her job back, the fact that they think Blackberrys have crystal clear Skyping capability (okay, maybe that just bothers me) etc.

Anyway, after the finale S turned to me and said, "I'd probably be okay just reading the Wikipedia summaries of episodes next season." I'm inclined to agree.

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viggorlijah December 18 2012, 04:15:30 UTC
I went from being ambivalent about Dexter to despising him. His selfishness - he is Harry now. Deb's rush to La Guerta was so - Deb.

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hesychasm December 18 2012, 04:25:57 UTC
Fortunately most people in the fannish places I frequent don't think of Dexter as the hero of that show. But are you saying what Deb did was in character? Like, I get that the writers were trying to be bleak or dark or some shit, telling a story about how Deb's love for and emotional dependence on him basically ended up corrupting her, but that's just...not a story I wanted or hoped or expected I would ever see.

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viggorlijah December 18 2012, 05:58:13 UTC
What she did was a moment of indecision that could've gone either way, but that bit afterwards where Deb drops the gun and just rushes to grab La Guerta, weeping and holding her in genuine grief and despair, not over what she'd done, but that La Guerta was dying, that was great acting by Carpenter because it was so Deb with the fearless physical immediacy. Deb rushes in where angels fear to tread, and I love her so much.

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hesychasm December 18 2012, 06:17:04 UTC
Ah, okay -- I didn't understand at first what you meant by "rush." I read somewhere else that this moment was actually unscripted, that Carpenter just did it on her own. Will have to try and verify, but that might be why her dress doesn't have any blood on it in the last shots of her and Dexter walking through the party. Either way, Carpenter did some really excellent work this season and made me love Deb a hell of a lot.

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