How do you justify Japan?
I've been wanting to make this wank for a while now but haven't really had the time, but here I am now. :)
I'll just come out and make the proposal that Japan is a Mary Sue character. Or at least, really, really pushing the envelope. For a while I really liked him, I thought he was adorable (actually his picture was the reason I got into Hetalia to ( Read more... )
I'll just come out and make the proposal that Japan is a Mary Sue character. Or at least, really, really pushing the envelope. For a while I really liked him, I thought he was adorable (actually his picture was the reason I got into Hetalia to ( Read more... )
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...Uh. Taiwan openly favors every other Asian over China because she and China don't get along. For obvious historical reasons.
Honestly this is silly. Japan just isn't close with many nations period, so most of them don't really have a strong opinion of him either way. Which makes sense given his isolationist period. Korea and China aren't exactly his biggest fans either. Sure they could be more hostile, but I'm preeeeeeetty sure Himaruya's avoiding some pretty touchy subjects there. And who else would have reason to dislike him? History-wise I got nothin', and personality-wise, he has a calm, quiet personality that makes it hard to hate him. He's just easily ignored. And that's what the majority of the cast does.
He's not a fucking Mary Sue and the entire cast doesn't love him.
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But yeah, I get your point. It's just that personality doesn't give other characters a pass so I scratch my head when you say that it does for Japan. I'm not saying any of this means that he's a Sue.
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Well then there you go, you answered your own goddamn question. Himaruya made a Japan that generally doesn't make many enemies or many friends. He's just kind of there. That's how his personality is. He's similar to Canada, really. Do you think Canada is horrible because weh weh no one hates him?
It's just that personality doesn't give other characters a pass so I scratch my head when you say that it does for Japan
What the fuck do you even mean by that? No one tries to call any other character in this fandom a Mary Sue except Seychelles. Which is also total bullshit and is pretty much entirely because she's a girl and bawww vagina ~getting in the way~ of my precious buttsex. Beyond that, no one else gets this shit. Just Japan.
I'm not saying any of this means that he's a Sue. ( ... )
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let's all conveniently forget they dislike each other for the sake of calling Japan a mary sue yes
ALSO THE CORRECT TERM WOULD BE GARY STU JUST SAYING
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All of these give good reasons for these countries to be kind to Japan in the comic, but the OP makes it look like they all get along with japan because he's a goddamned Mary Sue who bends them to his Sueish will. El oh el.
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So please chill out? Stop laughing at me? Sorry for offending you?
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The point is that China is considered the worse of the two to Taiwan. Why the hell would Taiwan prefer China to Japan ever? She wouldn't. That would be ridiculous. And uh. The Asians have always been a dysfunctional family that cares about each other despite not getting along perfectly. Always. They all get along better than they technically "should".
My point is that he is a country and like every other country, he's done some good things and some bad things. In my humble opinion this truth does not reflect over in canon.
...He fucking stabs China with a knife. That's far worse than anything pretty much any other character ever does in canon.
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well Korea doesnt like Japan (he's tsundere towards him at some point). And I think China should at least show some dislike with him since I've seen how some chinese people are resented with japanese over the past war.
However I think the reason for China or even Korea not showing open dislike for Japan is because of controversy. You see if Korea or China would show hate towards him that would probably end up with more dislike from japanese people (counting this is japanese manga and japanese are the specific public) and would probably offend people from Korea and China who don't want any to do with that controversy
On the other hand even if Korea and China are resented towards Japan, they also like him a lot because of the good inventions and technology. Japan is liked among asian countries because of that (and he's also disliked because of the war so you see a patron of hate/love as well)
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SOMEBODY should dislike him. Well, you tell me, then. Leaving aside its relationship with other Asian countries (something Himaruya chooses not to get into, and for obvious reasons, I guess), what other country openly dislikes Japan? It's true that not everybody will love him, but that doesn't necessarily mean dislike. Countries may respect him, but Himaruya does make a point that Japan is more of a loner with few friends.
As for the character relationships you mention, let's analyze them. Greece does have a good relationship in real life with Japan. Turkey is more of a random thing, but it's not hard to suppose that Turkey's reasoning for pining to Japan is his rivalry to Greece. Taiwan has plenty of reasons to favor Japan in real life, a particularly relevant one being the fact that Japan does acknowledge her as ( ... )
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Not random at all, actually. Historically, the Japanese have much older and stronger ties with the Turks than with Greece.
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