problems of morality, thoughts on 9/11/05

Sep 11, 2005 02:53

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___________meow September 12 2005, 01:22:59 UTC
i really enjoyed reading your thoughts. they make sense and i can see your thought process, but it seems like you refuse to see the gray in these situations.

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highly_affected September 12 2005, 04:27:10 UTC
which situations might you be talking about? the whole thing is gray really.

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___________meow September 12 2005, 07:47:23 UTC
for instance, that accepting the beliefs of one religion morality somehow means that you disagree with others. pretty much every established religion has a very similar definition and advocates selflessness. or the fact that in the midst of the "lawlessness" created by these tragedies, there are also stories of great heroism and commraderie. i just think you've made sense of something so abstract by comparing or contrasting it with certain situations and forgotten the gray areas in which true morality (lessoning of evil or harm as its goal) does prevail.

it's really easy to build an agrument against humanity and it's disappointing ways, but without that free will to fail, we would never triumph.

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highly_affected September 12 2005, 14:21:42 UTC
your statement is burdened by contradictions, for instance ( ... )

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awkwardmoments September 12 2005, 04:00:17 UTC
i didnt read what you wrote. but happy 911!

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highly_affected September 12 2005, 04:26:25 UTC
damn you natasha!

actually i take it back. i dont think ill ever see you in sb in reality

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awkwardmoments September 12 2005, 05:11:05 UTC
dude i was just kidding. seriously.

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awkwardmoments September 12 2005, 05:12:07 UTC
sorry. i didnt mean it. im just being a smartass lately.

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alwaysxtomorrow September 13 2005, 01:33:34 UTC
i have to take myself aback whenever i think about morality because the whole thing is corrupted. There is no homogenized morality, its just sparse and between and among certain people. Maybe everyone does have morality, its just that some people's morality is so fundamentally different than everyone else's that they are considered not to have it at all. Insofar as religions, they contradict eachother enough that if the choice were present, they would all have the other religions wiped out. but religion itself is the basis for many peoples thought systems and sense of morality. long, long ago, that may have been the main point of religion: to keep the 'masses' from doing bad things, rioting, abiding to government rules, not killing, things that we today consdier to be absurd, just because its so ingrained into our moral code ( ... )

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highly_affected September 13 2005, 04:07:14 UTC
thanks for the input

one thing we all must hold as truth

values work for self interest the majority of the time. they are flexible and capricious.

true morality is like math, it is not relative. it transcends relativeness. there is a right and a wrong.

take for example the law. not all laws have been moral in history but they are codes of conduct within a society that stand for specific values that may change.

morality is a code of conduct, unlike:
law, self-interest, religion, aesthetics

that is true justice.

our greatest heroes have challenged flawed value systems of law. because law and self interest must ultimately answer to morality. that is the ideal at least. they are the civil disobedient, not the common criminal who break the law for self interest purposes alone. these people stand for principles.

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