LJ Prosecution

[hime_chi]

Considering I haven't posted in ages, that probably says something about how seriously I'm taking this matter. Although it probably has nothing to do with my 13 hour drive and lack of sleep from yesterday. :PFirst off, I would like to point out that my views are likely less enraged and condemning because I read LJ's statement before knowing what

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[passionfire]

I'm glad that someone else acknowledges that LJ has a right to moderate content on their site and read the ToS. LJ has been pretty lax in enforcing it but until now, it seems like they hadn't been given concrete real reason to, either.

While I agree with you that it's better to explore darker aspects through fiction, I do have a personal issue with the communities that post NC-17 content without a warning though most of the time, people do put ample warnings on their sites and fics. I also agree that many parents overprotect their children and it causes an entirely new set of social problems that it seems some really overlook but that's another discussion for another day.

Though honestly, the thing that pissed me off the most about this whole nonsense was the entitlement bullshit. We use the site; we do not own it. The PTB can axe our journals any time they please - I'm amazed that LJ is being this cooperative about the issue and from the comments on the news post, consumers are just taking it like it's their due

[hime_chi]

I so agree. >.> These journals are a privledge, not an unailable right. Just because something is a free service, people assume that they can own it. We don't own these journals, they pwn us, instead but we're using this service to satisfy our own need to blog, to write, to RP, to comment on random people's journals.

People are getting better about putting up warnings for any NC-17 content, and I know that most (if not all) fanfiction communities that I've seen require it. That social discussion would be fun to have, one day. ^.~

[yira_heerai]

You know, it's not so much the fact that they did it that bothers me- I really do understand what they've done and why they did it. What bothers me is the slight bit of hypocricy behind it.

Specifically, this little part:

Should any Content that you have authored be reported to LiveJournal as being offensive or inappropriate, LiveJournal might call upon you to retract, modify, or protect (by means of private and friends only settings) the Content in question within a reasonable amount of time, as determined by the LiveJournal staff. Should you fail to meet such a request from LiveJournal staff, LiveJournal may terminate your account. LiveJournal, however, is under no obligation to restrict or monitor journal Content in any way;And from what I can tell? There was no warning whatsoever given to these people. Their accounts were just suspended. There was no checking to see if these accounts actually condoned illegal activity, aside from the interests. That, too, I can understand, except that people have been using it as a way of saying

[hime_chi]

LiveJournal might call upon you to retract, modify, or protect... the Content in question.

Nowhere does it say that it will contact the person who's journal is in question. Sure, it might be polite to do so, but the law is rarely polite when it wants to ban something.

LiveJournal, however, is under no obligation to restrict or monitor journal Content in any way;

Exactly. It doesn't have to monitor things if it doesn't want to. However, it doesn't say that it won't restrict or monitor journal Content in any way, shape or form.

Like I said in the entry, they handled the suspension very badly, and there should have been a lot more information passed along up the ranks before it happened. I agree that it was a bad way to handle things, but they are still legally in the right to do so, with or without notice to the user.

[fyretoppaaa]

Hiii. XD Haven't seen you around much, nope. ♥

And I think you came across with a very fair and balanced overview of the whole issue. LJ was under no legal obligation--on the other hand, they really should have been fairer and more responsive to their customer base. ;; All the people in journalism are complaining and it's been a rather interesting read in the News post today.

On the other other hand, some of the backlash has just been ridiculous. People need to learn to be a little more polite, even if they don't feel that way. ;; LJ is doing their best to rectify the mistake, and it wouldn't hurt to work with them instead of yelling at them. The entitlement complex going around would probably have hurt our cause if we were still fighting. x___X;

[hime_chi]

I haven't seen you around much either!~ *sniff sniff*

Thanks, I was hoping for something along 'relatively in the middle'. ♥ As a paying LJ customer, I'd be expecting some happiness coming in my way if they wanted to keep my business. (Assuming that they had mistakenly deleted my account.)

I totally agree >.< Sometimes maturity is hard to pull off when you're annoyed at the higher ups. Authority figures have never done really well with die-hard fans anyway. ^.~ I'm glad that the majority seem to be appeased, now.

You have to wonder just how many paid accounts are going to continue from fandom journals, though. *shrug* Prolly mine, since they apologized and did their best to right their wrongs. ;P

[yeu]

Glad to see you got there safe and sound. I've been holding the fort here... sorta

I suppose I really have no opinion on this Strikeout '07 thing. No one I know was affected, although there could be some better judgement on LJ's part. Hey, people make mistakes.

[hime_chi]

Don't hurt your leg again. >.> You're going to owe me more sushi otherwise. ^.~

Yeah, I don't know anyone who was affected either, but the concept does technically affect all of us. Kinda that "say something even if it doesn't wrong you" deal.