Congratulation on your soon to be two-year-anniversary. Maybe you and Hisoka can have a shared party.
Morality is a loaded word. It's often used as an excuse to judge, and to divide the world into Good people and Evil people, and it goes downhill from there.
Though, I think it's important to follow your conscience. Especially here, since it would be so easy to follow Malnosso's example and be mindlessly cruel.
[That little ethereal puppy is making some really alarming noises. It's scaring the shit out of a little browny-orange kitten on the opposite shorebank that's gone all rigid and puffed-up. THIS WALK WITH THE HOUSEPERSON WAS OBVIOUSLY A MISTAKE. SHOULD HAVE STAYED HOME.
[GAH RUNNING. Kitty is going to run as fast as his tiny little legs can carry him. WHY WAS HE NOT BORN A CHEETAH? D:
YOU THERE. PERSON SITTING NEAR WATER. You will soon have a kitten darting behind you. If you see a giant snarling dog hunting for blood, please do the right thing and tell it you don't know what kitten it's looking for?]
[Draco was zoning out up until there's a surprise!kitten racing at him followed by Padfoot bounding after it. He's surprised and he holds up a hand.]
Padfoot! [As soon as his master yells, the coyote screeches to a halt, panting and staring behind him pointedly for the kitten. Draco himself is going to turn in his spot to look over his shoulder, glancing down at the kitten and raising an eyebrow.]
My moral code is justice. I follow it because it's who I am and who I want to be in order to be the strongest I can be. It means protecting innocent lives and putting pirates behind bars. With some exceptions.
As for anyone else, they should figure out their own justice and follow it.
Justice...I vaguely remember that about you. Let me ask you this though; is it a moral code you developed yourself, or is it one that was thrust upon you?
[written] (ooc: his only TL;DR button Juuuustice)justicereignsJuly 16 2011, 08:39:44 UTC
Take a guess.
It's my own code. As I see it, within the marine ranks, and those claiming to be on the side of righteousness, there are some pretty separate distinctions on justice. The morality that would be forced upon someone, as you put it, is known in my world as "absolute justice." The idea is that killing two hundred men in order to kill a pirate is justified because the pirate if left to live could still go on to kill two thousand civilians. Absolute justice dictates that all pirates are monsters and to be executed on sight.
What I would call true justice, takes into account for the the individual situations. Sometimes in order to protect the greater good, it's more important to make a personal sacrifice rather than let civilians die for a chance at a military victory. It's keeping the big picture in mind. If justice is protecting people and the very point to killing pirates is so that they can't kill more people, then letting people die or sacrificing them to kill a pirate is losing sight of the real goal
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[written] (ooc: it's kinda epic though :o)hisdarkmarkJuly 16 2011, 08:49:52 UTC
I'll write it off.
[Dear Merlin, Smoker. Draco's just going to stare and read..and reread.]
Fascinating...that there's a difference, I mean. And that you actually apply the difference. Though I might point out that absolute justice sounds rather stupid.
Let me ask you this. Can that still be applied here?
Morals. Some like to say it's the difference between doing something good and doing something bad, but things are rarely that black and white. Reality is rather gray with lighter and darker shades of grey.
I think there's what's lawful, what's good, and what's right. With the inverse, there's what's unlawful, what's bad, and what's wrong. The six categories are to be determined by one's personal stance on things and their beliefs.
The real problem with rules and laws is that there's always a way around them. A justification for breaking them, if you will. What then?
...here's an example. Let's say a person has done something that by society's standards is breaking a moral code, and yet they have a reasonable excuse. Are they still held accountable?
...Estelle did you just give me a dictionary response?
Never mind. What about the people here? What about when everyone here follows a moral code and act respectfully but sometimes still slip up and veer away from it? Can it really be considered a bad thing when outside forces...well, force things.
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Morality is a loaded word. It's often used as an excuse to judge, and to divide the world into Good people and Evil people, and it goes downhill from there.
Though, I think it's important to follow your conscience. Especially here, since it would be so easy to follow Malnosso's example and be mindlessly cruel.
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And what if a person doesn't exactly have a conscience? What does one do then?
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You pity them.
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I don't feel like pitying anyone, nor do I want pity.
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Mew?]
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YOU THERE. PERSON SITTING NEAR WATER. You will soon have a kitten darting behind you. If you see a giant snarling dog hunting for blood, please do the right thing and tell it you don't know what kitten it's looking for?]
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Padfoot! [As soon as his master yells, the coyote screeches to a halt, panting and staring behind him pointedly for the kitten. Draco himself is going to turn in his spot to look over his shoulder, glancing down at the kitten and raising an eyebrow.]
And where exactly did you come from?
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My moral code is justice. I follow it because it's who I am and who I want to be in order to be the strongest I can be. It means protecting innocent lives and putting pirates behind bars. With some exceptions.
As for anyone else, they should figure out their own justice and follow it.
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Justice...I vaguely remember that about you. Let me ask you this though; is it a moral code you developed yourself, or is it one that was thrust upon you?
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It's my own code. As I see it, within the marine ranks, and those claiming to be on the side of righteousness, there are some pretty separate distinctions on justice. The morality that would be forced upon someone, as you put it, is known in my world as "absolute justice." The idea is that killing two hundred men in order to kill a pirate is justified because the pirate if left to live could still go on to kill two thousand civilians. Absolute justice dictates that all pirates are monsters and to be executed on sight.
What I would call true justice, takes into account for the the individual situations. Sometimes in order to protect the greater good, it's more important to make a personal sacrifice rather than let civilians die for a chance at a military victory. It's keeping the big picture in mind. If justice is protecting people and the very point to killing pirates is so that they can't kill more people, then letting people die or sacrificing them to kill a pirate is losing sight of the real goal ( ... )
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[Dear Merlin, Smoker. Draco's just going to stare and read..and reread.]
Fascinating...that there's a difference, I mean. And that you actually apply the difference. Though I might point out that absolute justice sounds rather stupid.
Let me ask you this. Can that still be applied here?
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I think there's what's lawful, what's good, and what's right. With the inverse, there's what's unlawful, what's bad, and what's wrong. The six categories are to be determined by one's personal stance on things and their beliefs.
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So that is to say that no two people can ever agree, correct? If that's the case then why bother instilling rules and laws in the first place?
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Rules and laws are designed to keep things fair and safe for people.
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...here's an example. Let's say a person has done something that by society's standards is breaking a moral code, and yet they have a reasonable excuse. Are they still held accountable?
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Never mind. What about the people here? What about when everyone here follows a moral code and act respectfully but sometimes still slip up and veer away from it? Can it really be considered a bad thing when outside forces...well, force things.
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