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[hissy]

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[tree_sick]

i wish i could talk to you

[hissy]

let me call?

[tree_sick]

okay

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[summerstorms]

undergradute writing seminars are the best.

[roofwalking]

i'm more than a little bothered by how dismissive everybody seems of the comments on the critiqued piece at the end. "dunce?" "philistinism?" the person who made those comments on those four lines at least has the courtesy to offer thoughtful comments and the balls to say he/she doesn't understand; he/she, unlike so many people commenting here, doesn't seem to be merely passing value judgments. calling something "confusing" is honest, and using qualifiers like "i'm not convinced" is at least a little open-minded; calling somebody a dunce or dismissing them based on their handwriting is asinine and closed-minded.

and for god's sake, what are "undergraduate writing seminars" for if not multiplicity of viewpoints?

[hissy]

i agree entirely; i love workshops, i really, really love them; i crave criticism, the more negative, the better. maybe it was inappropriate of me to post this, i certainly didn't expect such viciousness. when i got the comments back, i just thought it was an intense juxtaposition: what i had written -- something i thought was violent, moody, & yes, self-indulgent -- versus the handwriting, in red, sober & blunt. i admit i was annoyed, knowing the girl, knowing the carelessness with which she seems to fling her words, the way she seems to contradict for the sake of contradicting. but mostly i just really like that she (maybe inadvertantly) had the balls to take "Shephard came violently" & question the very climax. it seems fitting, just as violent. does that make sense?

[mommalovesme]

remember all that stuff i used to write on your papers? im pretty sure i said some of the same things... :) we were good at pushing one another. the workshop dynamic is something you just really have to feel , it works almost as its own organism.

speaking of, i sent you a revision?...

[hissy]

i remember you raising your hand & almost yelling, saying something like, "this just reads as your status quo new york poem, & who needs another new york poem?" it was brilliant, & it actually hurt at the time, because i knew you were totally right. i also remember you giving me, at the last class, 5 pages of typed comments, & me reading & rereading them, trying to milk them of every last bit of insight, being so incredibly grateful. you were excellent at pushing me, i just hope i did a little of the same.

the revision has been sitting in my inbox, i read it & thought it was a marked improvement, but tomorrow i'll send over a more detailed reaction, okay?

[chirospasm]

i totally took all this as you bashing a professor in some i am maybe too self-assured to actually take advice sorta way, which covers the conventional artistic values vs experimental artistic values, you know, with regards to the philistinism/low expectations of people comment. if i'd maybe paid better attn., this wouldn't've progessed the way it did.

sorry, a.m.!

[hissy]

it's okay, n.t.k.! it's an interesting discussion. basically, though, i love Professors so unequivocally that this could never happen.

[lizk]

meh, art wouldn't be any fun if everybody got it, anyway. think what a terrible place the world would be if everyone was of the overly-intelligent overly-moody breed.