Delayed Attempt at Meta

Apr 19, 2012 21:03

So I'm an awful fandom participant. Last night I had this big 'relationships in shows' rant typed up with some observations about what I see people criticizing about fictional relationships and how unhealthy they are. Which got me to thinking about real relationships how none of them are healthy or are very problematic in the same ways. It was all ( Read more... )

mini-meta, relationships, tv: the vampire diaries, river

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snogged April 20 2012, 11:59:34 UTC
I like characters who are flawed too and I certainly appreciate Elena for who she is and how she's portrayed.

Like you, I'm a Damon/Elena shipper too. :P But I absolutely think that Damon would be sleeping around if it weren't for Elena. Especially Season 1!Damon.

Good luck with the outdoor dog pen!

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hisui_ryoshi April 21 2012, 16:07:54 UTC
I think Damon is already sleeping around. Rebekah? I don't know that he will now going forward because he said he wasn't going to screw it up, but we shall see.

It's really interesting too to see that some of the people who are pro-Elena as a character hate the Salvatore brothers for their relationships with her. Not per say, for existing, but for the fact that see Elena as some sort of prize to be won. And lots of people reacting to Rose's speech to Jeremy that Damon is abusive to Elena and never good for her, and that abuse is not challenging someone...

Really though, both of the brothers are. Wickery Bridge anyone? Relationships are flawed too.

I don't see any of these relationships having a happy ending. In the end though and I hope the writers make this clear, it's Elena's choice. Elena could forgive either of them for past actions or find someone new.

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upupa_epops April 22 2012, 00:20:02 UTC
Hi! So I came here, because after you left a comment on my lj, I was curious who you were. And I just wanted to tell you that I agree completely. Elena has every right to NOT KNOW yet. She's not in this show to make the Salvatores happy, and she's not there to save the world with the magical power of her goodness. She's morally flawed. She's complicated. She's troubled. She's astonishing.

Sorry for the shameless flail coming out of nowhere, but it's so rare that I just randomly see a person with whom I'd agree about Elena that I couldn't resist. When it comes to Elena, a big part of TVD fandom is cursed with Madonna-Whore complex :(.

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hisui_ryoshi April 22 2012, 00:28:06 UTC
I can't imagine Elena figuring it out anytime soon either. I'm so happy that Elena is who she is, and I appreciate some other peoples thoughts including yours on this episode very much.

I think female characters in general get hated on by fandom(s). Elena is sadly especially hated. Oh, the hate that was piled on her last season when she just wanted to let herself die...I don't get it. Even if Elena never chooses a brother and ends up alone I will love Elena.

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