Comments | house_pundit: In Support of Israel

house_pundit

In Support of Israel

May 31, 2010 11:29

When you pick up a metal rod or a knife, and you start whacking on soldiers with them, you lose your right to whine, "But I'm a civilian!" This also tends to make them cranky. Making soldiers on an op cranky is generally regarded, among people in the know, as a Bad Idea.

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masgramondou May 31 2010, 16:06:57 UTC

Unfortunately the ones who orchestrated this were almost certainly not the ones who actually died.

Personally I'd like to have seen the entire flotilla sunk on the Israeli maritime border line. The world would not actually miss any of the "activists" on board or the media that came with them. Indeed arguably the world would be far better off if a number of them were no longer present in it

chuckles48 May 31 2010, 18:45:34 UTC

Two things:
- The Israelis also ban concrete importation. So there's precious little construction or repair going on in Gaza, except with salvage. A goodly chunk of the tonnage on those ships was concrete.
- Looking at the footage, the Israelis screwed up, badly. It was clear there was a mob waiting, and they dropped right into it. They should have seen the mob in night vision, so... why didn't they use flashbangs to clear a safe LZ?

house_pundit May 31 2010, 23:07:23 UTC

As far as the concrete goes, I couldn't care less. There's a state of war. Humanitarian aid is food, medicine, things like drinking water, blankets, and tents.

A state of war exists between Israel and the folks in Gaza. If they want to end the war, they should ask for terms and surrender. That's what you do when you lose. If you haven't surrendered, and you're in a state of war, you're still fighting. Obviously the people in Gaza believe they still have the will and/or ability to wage war. Food, medicine, blankets, doctors---but no war materiel, and construction supplies are materiel.

As to AAR on the op, I'll leave that to the professionals.

house_pundit May 31 2010, 23:17:58 UTC

The Palestinians actually have a point in considering their war winnable. They can't fight it and win, but they appear to be able to get other nations willing to more or less fight it for them.

thecrazyfinn May 31 2010, 23:11:08 UTC

Actually, the Israeli's DON'T ban concrete importation, they simply require that there be a project attached to the purchase because otherwise Hamas just ends up using it to build bunkers and nothing gets repaired anyways.

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house_pundit May 31 2010, 23:31:01 UTC

I'm not sure how you'd implement a surrender. One way--and I'm not advocating this--is to get all these nations that pity the Palestinians so much to agree to take a large chunk of them in ( ... )

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house_pundit June 2 2010, 15:41:27 UTC

Awwww. No more update pics.

wyrdling June 1 2010, 20:50:44 UTC

something seems so incongruous when a combatant which uses tactics like bombing busses full of school children can somehow still win the PR war.
i can't agree with everything the israelis are doing either, but the scales, in my mind, are heavily weighted on their side as far as who is fighting the "cleaner" war.
nasty fog we have here.

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