Look, we can wrangle on and on about whether or not prayer really does what it's supposed to do (being that a divine figure intervenes in your life in some roundabout way to make your request happen), but I think a better way to put what you're saying is, "nothing succeeds like the power of suggestion and bizarre interpretations of events." God working in mysterious ways is the Christian version of chaos theory - anyone who's ever lived knows that you can predict some things, but so much of life is totally random, and those who need the feeling of security that faith can bring are more apt to find what they want in life after they've prayed for it, and seen the fucked up ways that people will get what they want, if they want it badly enough.
And you can't "win" an argument about whether or not your magic spells win, because, like I've said repeatedly, it's all up for interpretation, it's all subject to how suggestable the prayerful person.
1. "*wins" os a joke that Jeff will understand. Note the winking emoticon following.
2. You need to better articulate what you're saying in he first - "f*cked up ways... people get what they want" pertains to what? Prayer? Injustice? Greed? What?
It is my contention that our existence implies reason, because all of that existence is, in one way or another, a search for reason. "Bizarre interpretations of events" ma be an apt way to describe some of the religious nutcases' reasoning for Katrina, but it fails to adequately account for personal daily experience when communicating with the Divine.
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Nothing fails like "prove it" prayers, because the evidence isn't ever enough.
That's honest. Completely.
*wins ;-)
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And you can't "win" an argument about whether or not your magic spells win, because, like I've said repeatedly, it's all up for interpretation, it's all subject to how suggestable the prayerful person.
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2. You need to better articulate what you're saying in he first - "f*cked up ways... people get what they want" pertains to what? Prayer? Injustice? Greed? What?
It is my contention that our existence implies reason, because all of that existence is, in one way or another, a search for reason. "Bizarre interpretations of events" ma be an apt way to describe some of the religious nutcases' reasoning for Katrina, but it fails to adequately account for personal daily experience when communicating with the Divine.
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