Interesting Article

Jun 23, 2006 09:48



This is really cool. It's an area that is starting to get a lot more coverage, which I think is awesome.

No Longer a Mind of Our Own

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evileddy June 23 2006, 14:07:54 UTC
It's like the Killer whales who take a seal out and torture it for hours.

Or a cat that catches a mouse and plays with it till it's dead.

Humans aren't the only animal who gets it's rocks off playing to death with weaker beings.

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hypoxiaddict June 23 2006, 16:37:48 UTC
True. I remember hearing that some dolphins commit rape (of other dolphins) and yet people think they are these magical ocean creatures and line up to swim with them.

We're all animals.

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lactam June 23 2006, 17:43:06 UTC
they learned that from us.

There's plenty of websites about dolphin sex.

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hypoxiaddict June 23 2006, 17:52:07 UTC
Yeesh! That I didn't need to know.

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lactam June 23 2006, 14:18:05 UTC
Could it be that elephants, like humans, also suffer psychological trauma as a result of violence?

That, right there, is the best part of the article. It can be answered with an unqualified yes, with plenty of circumstancial evidence. The only problem with using elephants as study subjects, is that since their memories are like the memory of ... well, an elephant, the subject could be lashing out because when the Boer War broke out, their little group of playmates was split up.

Or, they're still bitter about Allan Quartermain.

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hypoxiaddict June 23 2006, 16:41:36 UTC
Hahahahahahahahaha!!! Allan Quartermain. Now there's something I'd completely forgotten about. The poor man's Indiana Jones.

I think there's a book out there with anecdotes from research with a wide variety of other animals. I think I'd be interested in reading that, if I can remember who wrote it and what it's called... Apparently my memory is the opposite of an elephant's.

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lactam June 23 2006, 17:41:52 UTC
poor man's Indiana Jones? The man's been a staple of Haggard's books for over a dozen adventures. It must have required whole ... dollars ... of funding to get those things written. Well, for turn-of-the-century books, I think that Haggard probably did quite well for himself. Err... how about, I hope he did well for himself.

... now that I think about it, the author's name (Haggard) might have been a reference in the Illuminatus' Trilogy by R.A.W. Hmmm....

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hypoxiaddict June 23 2006, 17:51:49 UTC
Yes but I'm afraid Allan Quartermain just isn't as sexy as Indiana Jones.

Haggard also wrote the book She - the girl's equivalent to Conan.

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tweeck June 23 2006, 16:22:31 UTC
Why is this idea new or revolutionary? We are so trapped in paradigms demanded by Christian ideas of a people centred universe necessary for heaven and hell.

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hypoxiaddict June 23 2006, 16:45:52 UTC
Yep. I agree. Humans have searched and clung desperately to the things that make us "superior" to animals. I've never understood why that was such a big deal but we also do it to each other, using arbitrary labels such as skin colour or hair colour or religious choice or political affiliation or whatever else you can think of.

The idea isn't new but the technology to back it all up is and that's the point of the article.

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