Re: Above filter: sometimes he is!iam_aghostAugust 20 2011, 13:41:30 UTC
But here, we're all a challenge to the system they've set up. Which, for whatever cruelties you believe the Barge is, this system has institutionalised murder, torture and Lord knows what else.
My worry is that if we shelter with inmates - we might bring trouble on their heads later, as there's less... obvious pretext to be staying with an inmate in their room.
And yet discipline can only be maintained when there aren't spies and subversives running unchecked. Violence for the sake of maintaining order is never senseless.
Except, Chancellor, these spies are not a permanence. Order can be maintained by keeping a close watch on our inmates, on their communications, on keeping a tight line on them.
If we go against these other wardens in any sense - we are only harming ourselves in the future. As this will end, and they will wake up dead, and resent us for that killing. There will also be a significant number of inmates without anyone enforcing discipline over them. The inmates might also see this and be inspired to fight against us more. We need to remove them from the equation quietly and carefully - and not through violence.
Your point would be correct if this was going to last. It's not. It's no worse than a flood turning a few of us into weak, womanly pacifists. Ignore them, and keep a tight hand on the inmates instead.
Quiet and careful isn't incompatible with violence. A quick incursion into their quarters and a silent shot to the head should do the trick nicely. Rather than being resentful, I imagine that quite a few of them will be grateful that they were prevented from embarrassing themselves further by a continual display of weakness.
We can't afford to simply let them be. Even if they're only here for a few days, they could do significant damage.
If they do significant damage, it's because we're not doing our job properly.
I also imagine that nobody around here does 'grateful' too well, and it'll just send most of them into more chaotic revenge schemes. It'll turn us against each other.
It's a flood. Sure up your own end and let it run its course. Confronting them might end up in as many of us getting hurt or killed, and not even against a permanent threat.
Re: Sane people Filteriam_aghostAugust 20 2011, 17:58:43 UTC
Sounds like a fair enough plan. Your locks should at least counter my initial worries that it'd make people easier to find if they were coming to... the more obvious of us.
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And yet discipline can only be maintained when there aren't spies and subversives running unchecked. Violence for the sake of maintaining order is never senseless.
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If we go against these other wardens in any sense - we are only harming ourselves in the future. As this will end, and they will wake up dead, and resent us for that killing. There will also be a significant number of inmates without anyone enforcing discipline over them. The inmates might also see this and be inspired to fight against us more. We need to remove them from the equation quietly and carefully - and not through violence.
Your point would be correct if this was going to last. It's not. It's no worse than a flood turning a few of us into weak, womanly pacifists. Ignore them, and keep a tight hand on the inmates instead.
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We can't afford to simply let them be. Even if they're only here for a few days, they could do significant damage.
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I also imagine that nobody around here does 'grateful' too well, and it'll just send most of them into more chaotic revenge schemes. It'll turn us against each other.
It's a flood. Sure up your own end and let it run its course. Confronting them might end up in as many of us getting hurt or killed, and not even against a permanent threat.
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