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[iamredmage]

The Myth of the Individual and Heroism

Comments

[joecamel]

Bravo!

[enhiver]

agreed.. we are trained so early to believe that the cog in a machine is the only way to live. I'm starting to get so fed up with the facade.. all of it, a farce to do as we are told and never question it, because [as you said] our fictional heroes do the questionnig for us, even though the same corrupt system lie right before us. We glorify state sanctioned violence and look upon individual acts of violence with repugnance in the real world... while in fantasy land we do the oposite. I am going to make it my goal to make other see that no matter what way you look at it a troop is still a trained killer and people's taxes feed death. To call this country a christian nation is such a contradiction... like beating a person to death with a bible for saying what they believe is different. Perhaps it lies in the hands of those who see through the bullshit to make change.. I dunno

[iamredmage]

I need to hunt down an article by Eric S Raymond you should read, called "The Myth of Man the Killer". It does an admirable jpb of making the argument that our greatest flaw as a species isn't violence, but obedience that allows violence on massive levels.

[enhiver]

See I don't have any real problem with it... I don't value human life enough to give a shit when someone I'm not close to dies. Just don't lie to yourself about it. I guess my problem is the two-faced nature the mass has.

[iamredmage]

I completely agree. I need an emotional conection to care about someone dying.

http://www.catb.org/esr/writings/killer-myth.html

[tommytwotone]

I agree fantasy is easier than reality, and most people would prefer it. And when thinking about, anyone I would describe as a contemporary hero is most likely either from a movie, or is animated.

[ilikeskirts]

I disagree with several of your arguments, but i'm probably just a tool.
I'd like to hear your justification for claiming fascism to be the most effective form of governance. I would argue that while it is extraordinarily efficient, it's effectiveness is limited.

Your point, that the effectiveness of a system of ideas is relatively proportional to it's restrictiveness is quite true in our modern world. Though, I believe that it has more to do with our nature as animals that allows the ambiguity towards mob/individual mentality.

Sometimes I wish I were a marxist. Do you know how easy it is to see the world through dialectic glasses?

[ilikeskirts]

I meant that, once operating properly, fascism seems to require the most outside influences to bring it down. As opposed to a democracy, which can be destroyed by the whim of 51% of the population coinciding in views for a single day.