The pain of mind

Oct 08, 2005 15:45

I mentioned earlier, the groove of thought forms a consistent momentum and is self perpetuating. It becomes a blackhole that sucks in informations, emotions, and experiences. When we identify these info/emotion/experiences as us, it organizes these info into story lines so as to give rise to a consistent sense of "self". This is why different ( Read more... )

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cowie October 8 2005, 08:32:27 UTC
> This FEAR, is irrational, because if we are able recognise that we are not the story we witness but rather the WITNESS to our story

are you arguing that there is no such thing as human agency? or rather, are you advocating there ought not to be? what is the "self" then?

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idipsum October 8 2005, 08:37:05 UTC
Tabula rasa. We are the watcher of the events around us. This watcher is a clean slate, no past, no future. It is the naked illumination, that makes us aware. We are NOT our experiences, ideas, emotions etc, we are merely witnessing them. All pain, primarily stems from this mistaken sense of self. Thoughts/mind/emotions is very useful as a tool, but now, humans are enslaved by it. Am I clear in my expression?

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cowie October 8 2005, 10:37:56 UTC
i still dun understand. if i am but a mere observer of my life, then who am i? to observe, i have to detach myself from my corporeal being. but detached of my body, i am no longer myself. i become a non-entity; specifically, i am shaped completely by external forces, an infinitely free spirit with no beginning and no end. isn't that a state of non-existence, or even, death? or is that your point exactly? :-D

i can't visualise it...

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idipsum October 8 2005, 17:56:11 UTC
You cant visualise it, because you are visualising with your mind. As I mentioned earlier mind abstracts reality by fragmenting it. Therefore, mind is incapable of witnessing the witness, as it is the absolute truth. This emptiness, is our nature. It seems like non-existence to you because your attention has always been focused outward. Only this witness, not the mind, can witness itself for it is infinite and eternal ( ... )

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