It's scary. I've got 0. I don't see the any evidence of this world being worked on. - Рабинович, вам потребовалось целых семь дней, чтобы пошить мои брюки! Весь мир был создан за меньшее время! - Да? А вы посмотрите на этот мир.. И посмотрите на эти брюки!
I also do not see any evendence. But when they ask whether it is conceivable that this Universe is someone's high-school project, I just cannot say: "no". But I see no evidence of that, so I would not bet even $1 on that, if you offer me $1B.
I can understand your reasoning but then I don't see how you got only 45 points. You admit the possibility that this world is a test tube but somehow reject the idea that the experimenter may still be around and has the means to intervene? (50 points)
The creators of this video certainly have an agenda. But that does not change whether I like it or not. I have never claimed that it is absurd to allow for a theoretical chance that we live in a test tube. I've "earned" my own 45 points for making such allowances to the max. Still, I do find it absurd for someone to jump from "a theoretical chance that something might be true" to a full fledged belief in that something being true, indeed.
As for a prayer/meditation, it does give a few "points" to what you'd call a "spiritual" belief (like reaching for knoledge through intuition vs science). However, I think you misread the 600 pt question. That quesiton was about influencing events otherwise totally outside of your control. Your example, however, is of influencing yourself to excerises your control over the events
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i do not happen to think that all religious belief is irrational :) i also don't like this particular way of representing all religion -- this reminds me of the saturday or sunday morning program they had on the local ABC channel in New Haven -- there they had a evangelical guy go around college campuses "debunking" atheists. He would make a pronouncement, then would debunk it -- obviously, if he had someone who was a real atheist, as opposed to whom the guy presented as an atheist, to actually argue with him, he wouldn't look so smug
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Still, I think you've summarized what they are trying to say precicely: "explain[ing] something that you don't understand by divine intervention is silly". It is just they use word "delusional" instead of your "silly".
As to fighting the scarecrows, well, they asked questions, and if their questions do not represent your beliefs (because your beliefs are more "nuanced" or someting), you can always answer in the nagative and not earn their badge of shame.
I got 20. But I also agree that this is definitely a biased survey and quite propaganda-ish (anti-religion). I think any Mormon who took it might be offended.
A lot of the high-point items are stuff specifically stressed in the Mormon Church (from what I understand), such as praying for revelation. And the Mormons are generally useful, productive members of society - in short, good people, despite their wacky belief system. So implying that they're a menace to society is just damned insulting.
I'll have to disagree about "good people". Lucy can speak better to multiple example of such "goodness".
Still, the "menace" label is only given to those who believe that their generation is "the last one" and that humanity and human survival "does not matter".
I thought that the questions about prayer and afterlife were geared to your gardern variety Christian/Muselim beliefs.
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and I'm NOT an atheist...
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- Рабинович, вам потребовалось целых семь дней, чтобы пошить мои брюки! Весь мир был создан за меньшее время!
- Да? А вы посмотрите на этот мир.. И посмотрите на эти брюки!
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I also do not see any evendence. But when they ask whether it is conceivable that this Universe is someone's high-school project, I just cannot say: "no". But I see no evidence of that, so I would not bet even $1 on that, if you offer me $1B.
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The 50pt question has no "maybe" in it, I believe.
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As for a prayer/meditation, it does give a few "points" to what you'd call a "spiritual" belief (like reaching for knoledge through intuition vs science). However, I think you misread the 600 pt question. That quesiton was about influencing events otherwise totally outside of your control. Your example, however, is of influencing yourself to excerises your control over the events ( ... )
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i do not happen to think that all religious belief is irrational :)
i also don't like this particular way of representing all religion -- this reminds me of the saturday or sunday morning program they had on the local ABC channel in New Haven -- there they had a evangelical guy go around college campuses "debunking" atheists. He would make a pronouncement, then would debunk it -- obviously, if he had someone who was a real atheist, as opposed to whom the guy presented as an atheist, to actually argue with him, he wouldn't look so smug ( ... )
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As to fighting the scarecrows, well, they asked questions, and if their questions do not represent your beliefs (because your beliefs are more "nuanced" or someting), you can always answer in the nagative and not earn their badge of shame.
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Still, the "menace" label is only given to those who believe that their generation is "the last one" and that humanity and human survival "does not matter".
I thought that the questions about prayer and afterlife were geared to your gardern variety Christian/Muselim beliefs.
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