IMAGINE BREAKER explanation and permission post

[illusionkiller]

Warning: This post contains spoilers for pretty much all of the first season of index and a few parts of railgun. You can probably watch railgun and still be surprised as Touma isn't a main character there. However this completely spoils index. If you were planning on watching this series I suggest taking the time to watch it before reading this if

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[wizardoftheweek]

Lesse...

Patchy's existence can be negated by this, I think. She's a pure youkai, after all.

Eirin is technically the same, though that opens up a controversy of whether or not extra-terrestrial beings actually exist.

May Lee's Hero Mode tends to be deactivated if she's given a heavy blow ANYWAYS, but all he really has to do to de-henshin her is touch her, if this is something to go by.

Soldier's all MAN all the time, so no effect there.

Jotaro's... an interesting point, actually. Negating his Stand would actually kill him, given it's so thoroughly ingrained into his psyche. That's canon proven. The interesting part comes from how Touma would be effected by Time Stops, if at all.

Virginia has no supernatural powers besides the Arcana, and she hasn't even regained those yet.

[illusionkiller]

I'm not sure about youkai and aliens applying to Touma's imagine breaker. It more applies to beings who are made of magic, in the canon Angels are just pure manifestations of magic. Erika is an exception since she shouldn't exist at all according to canon.

I'd need to know more about the Time Stops in order to understand how Touma would be able to react to it.

[wizardoftheweek]

Noted about youkai and aliens. If nothing else, their powers would stop working.

Time Stops essentially create a temporary alternate universe in which only the user can move forward along any given timeline for a maximum of so many seconds before the two realms merge again and time flows normally again. To anyone BESIDES Jotaro, Dio, and theoretically Diavolo, the whole thing happens in a blink. The effects are instantaneous and there's no awareness that any pause in time happened at all.

Time Stops can be halted if the user is stopped before their Stand can manifest. Jotaro does this in canon by managing to haymaker Dio before he can finish calling out The World, therefore ceasing the stop. Otherwise, though, it is incapable of being blocked unless you yourself can alter time somehow (example: During Dio's Time Stops, Star Platinum can still move to defend against Dio's attacks, but only for a short while).

[illusionkiller]

Yeah Danmaku certainly falls under either magic or supernatural powers depending on the character.

It sounds like there's no physical manifestation of the Time Stop that Touma could see. So the only way that Touma could nullify the Time Stop is by touching it with his right hand while it's going on and it sounds like this is impossible since there's no way Touma could enter the alternate universe. Unless there's some way Touma can touch the alternate universe?

[fractured_white]

What about mutants/genetically engineered human bioweapons? If Albedo's URTV body is approved, he'll be a lot stronger/faster/etc. than a human despite (if his brother is anything to go by) not being any heavier for denser muscle/bone/etc. Would that be negated or no?

Though once he gets his Testament body back, he's screwed since he's dead and running purely on divine energy. He's probably close enough to an angel to get that paranoia, too, since he's the assistant/partner of a semi-divine being.

[illusionkiller]

For his Testament body: yeah we can assume that he'd be similar to an Angel since he pure divine energy.

There's no canon about genetically engineered humans. The only thing that comes close is the Misaka imouto clones but the clones have psychic abilities similar to Misaka's. So I'm not exactly sure. I mean if he's stronger because his muscles are bigger or something like that I don't think Touma could interrupt that with his imagine breaker.

[fractured_white]

Well, technically, he does have psychic abilities but he hasn't regained any of them yet. Physically, he looks like a normal, if well built human...but he can rip people's limbs off with his bare hands and snap bones with a twist of his wrist. Sadly, canon isn't very clear on exactly how the URTVs do what they do.

[illusionkiller]

Hmm well ripping people's limbs off and snapping bones are really physical things so we'll go with Touma not being able to negate those. Touma's imagine breaker, however, would work on his psychic abilities once they are regained.

[wondering_eye]

SO HEY I'm just here to throw a couple of questions at you s-sob

Would Satori's mind-reading ability be blocked? Also, Dlanor, as you know, is from Heaven, so am I correct in assuming she'd be wary of Touma?

[illusionkiller]

Satori's mind reading ability would be blocked, yeah. Sorry Satori.

Yeah she'd probably be wary of Touma but I don't think he'd be able to kill her by touching her. Unless it ends up that she's in the same boat as Erika.

[wondering_eye]

Alright, thank you! Also, I should watch this series.

[illusionkiller]

No problem man! Yes you should *3*

[glowing_science]

Ema wishes her not!kids wouldn't fight like that. :(

So that this comment isn't totally useless:
Ema, as you know, is a normal human being. The worst she can do to him is throw tiny snack projectiles.

Leliana is also a normal human being. I'm not counting Talents as anything supernatural because, at least for her character class, they're pretty much all physical attacks or songs designed to assist her party in some way; canonically, she is not a mage.

I can't imagine why either of them would attack Touma outside of an event, but there you go. :)

[lotusgatekeeper]

Thanks for keeping me up to date ._.b

[have_your_lives]

How would his powers work on his not!dad? It sounds like Schuldig's telepathy may allow him to read Touma's mind, since that technically affects the brain and nothing else...but would Touma be able to cancel out his powers by touching him or the like?

[illusionkiller]

I've decided that telepathy will not work. The things that have worked directly on Touma's brain are more... severe than that? For example something that affected his brain in canon directly literally destroyed his memories.

If you mean the telepathy, then yes, while Touma is touching Schuldig with his right hand he would not be able to use his telepathy. But as soon as the contact is broken again he'll be able to use his telepathy.

[have_your_lives]

Severe as in more of an aggressive action and/or coming from a stronger source? Okay~ I'd actually been operating off the assumption that Schuldig couldn't read him before now, and it was only this post and your wording that made me question it.

Fair enough~ Schuldig probably won't bother with his not!son much.