Post #193

[ilovdoggystl]

so today as i was voting, i was thinking: who will be our president? at the exact instant that thought was processed, i started replying to it: Timmins, duh. most of the girls like her more than mccracken, and alot of guys (atleast me, anyway) voted for her because shes hot as a fox. vice president, eh, it comes down to susan and kyle. i actually

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[buyamerican]

Rush Limbaugh is a joke.

The only real problem with Islam is that there is no hierarchy, and any interpretation of the Koran is true, so if Jihad means kill a hella-load of people, no one can call them on the carpet.

Now if he said something like the extremists use the religion destroy the west, then we are somewhat on track

And the a idea of a trinity is of no real dispute outside of the christan factions. Its really how to worship God

[ilovdoggystl]

i know, thats the thing though, jihad is a powerful tool that is very open to a wide array of interpretation. and i guess that its just up to the individual, and they hope that they will use common sense and not hate while interpreting it. but people dont always use common sense, do they?

[_bit_]

well whatev, i plan on trying to help things. but either way, your post made me laugh b/c i know nothing about you... but it had my name in it... that was one of the few smiles i had today.

[ilovdoggystl]

no offense, but you honestly couldnt think of anything to add to the theological reasoning discussion of the post?

hopefully it was the post and not the image of my funny-lookin face.

[_bit_]

i honestly didnt feel like reading much of it. but i decided to anyway. my opinion. let everyone be. i dont know what i believe sometimes, and i would be happy if people accepted that. i have been raised catholic, and i dont have any problem what-so ever with a single muslim that i have known. i think that a person's beliefs are their own. they are to be respected, whether or not you agree with them or not. so basically, i think that almost every religion is full of shit, b/c they all think they are the "one" and that their followers will be the only ones to make it to heaven. if you believe in god, care for the man next to you, and mind your own business i think that you will make it to heaven. too many of the people that call themselves christians talk bad about people, call people bad names behind their back, etc. and what does it matter if your christian or muslim, that label doesnt make you a good person.

[ilovdoggystl]

yah, but religon could just be a vessel for the good and common sense of humans. many religons have similar principles, and in my eyes, many religons are in fact one religon that is just too complex to reveal all at once. so it is divided, the aspects are divided. some religons believe in tolerance of the others and the co-relation of others. and yes, many religons do try to preach singular power, but i think that is just an addition of human nature that we have installed into our texts. when humans are a vessel for the passage of the text, that definitely causes confusion, and the time of that passage may affect how it is written. but many of the same principles stay the same.

what i also dont get, however, is how if(like you said) the religons stress their power as the "one", and it is stressed as a major principle, how humans can correctly live out the other principles. which brings me back to your "religons full of shit" bit and gets my head all spinny.

[buyamerican]

none of the three beg the question of God's existence, it's how he works is the what the fighting is for.

I guess what you have to ask is; is God worth fighting and dieing for?

Because that is the rational of the extremest, there not fighting for God, that is not something to be tossed aside.

food for thought

[ilovdoggystl]

i agree alex. extremists of any religon that try to use that religon as a shield to justify violence cannot truly say they are concerned about their religon. it is a selfish desire to fight insecurity. so you and i are totally 100% on this one.

[buyamerican]

what if there interpretation of the religion is through violence, and if there is no wrong interpretation to the Koran, how can you call them wrong?

[ilovdoggystl]

well, it distinctly says in the Qur'an that killing is a major sin, it says that violence is a sin. so it may be alot easier to call those people on using religon for their own use. this contradiction is, in my eyes, a way to say "hey, you aren't carrying out the will of the Qur'an, your not trying to achieve God's goal, you are trying to meet your own pathetic insecurities." The Qur'an apparently, as i said, hopes that teh follower will use common sense while interpreting and applying the Qur'an to their lives.

[dirty_south_]

basically, it seems to me that the extremest muslims, that attacked america on 9/11, are the ones who are really wrong about attacking another race or religion. cause if they say we're so much worse than them, how come they dont see us terrorizing them. also eric today in classical civ, you said that "in the process of bombing bagdad, we've probably killed thousands of women and children, cause our bombs aren't even accurate" first of all im am possitive that we havent kill nearly as many civilians, and second of all, how can you say our bombs aren't accurate, when a lazer guided missle CANT miss out side a 6 ft. radius of the target.

[ilovdoggystl]

its not just the bombs. crossfire, crumbling buildings CREATED by bombs. first, i know for a fact that at least 100,000 innocent iraqis have died from the war. just check abc.net's october 29, 2004 page. and think about the explosive power of the bombs. they can take down more than one building, and the terrorist buildings are not clustered together for that reason. and not all the bombs dropped were laser guided; no no, many more were non guided bombs. just dropped randomly. that would be like someone going over the 7-mile-wide area near the starc armory and saying "oh, i hope this one hits" and just dropping random bombs.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200410/s1230305.htm