I'm curious as to what your thoughts on the matter are, as I find that my beliefs on this subject often come under fire as well, and it is difficult to find a good listener. I don't know if I myself am good at such things, but I like to think that I can try. Of course I understand if you'd rather not share.
Well, thank you very much for sharing. I have a somewhat different perspective, but I think we have some common ground.
My fundamental position, my thesis, if you will, is that race itself is not an appropriate criterion for selecting someone for a competitive position. There is no intrinsic property of race that particularly disadvantages one race below another. In fact, saying "You must be disadvantaged because you're black" plays into the very kind of stereotyping that we as egalitarians want to reject on face. It means we make assumptions, we judge, based on skin color.
You have an excellent point about economics. I would say that while we cannot know that one's race has made things more difficult for one (and hence their accomplishments relatively more impressive), we can know that for those who have been born into economic hardship. As such, I would not be opposed to economic affirmative action
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But I would be happy to fight you sometime. Truth is, I'm not sure how much of a fight I would put up. I'm not too clear on the issue still when I sit and reason calmly with myself. I only get opinionated once everyone else gets so hostile.
As for Edwards... well I do like him. I think he's genuine. I think he's capable.
But I think Barack Obama has this spark. And I can't help being pulled his way even if his his speech is grand while his plans are nebulous. He's just got that 'it' factor.
BUT I am glad to here you like Gravel. I fucking love that man. He's the craziest (democratic) bastard I've ever heard. I mean, I agree with almost everything he says, but he does it in such a ridiculous manner. He doesn't act like a politician. He acts like a crazy drunken uncle. Ah. I love it.
Kucinich is also admirable. But he's not assertive enough I feel. He's too nice for the presidential game.
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My fundamental position, my thesis, if you will, is that race itself is not an appropriate criterion for selecting someone for a competitive position. There is no intrinsic property of race that particularly disadvantages one race below another. In fact, saying "You must be disadvantaged because you're black" plays into the very kind of stereotyping that we as egalitarians want to reject on face. It means we make assumptions, we judge, based on skin color.
You have an excellent point about economics. I would say that while we cannot know that one's race has made things more difficult for one (and hence their accomplishments relatively more impressive), we can know that for those who have been born into economic hardship. As such, I would not be opposed to economic affirmative action ( ... )
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Also, Edwards in '08 amirite? (actually I like gravel and Kucinich, but they have no chance of being elected.)
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But I would be happy to fight you sometime.
Truth is, I'm not sure how much of a fight I would put up. I'm not too clear on the issue still when I sit and reason calmly with myself. I only get opinionated once everyone else gets so hostile.
As for Edwards... well I do like him. I think he's genuine. I think he's capable.
But I think Barack Obama has this spark. And I can't help being pulled his way even if his his speech is grand while his plans are nebulous. He's just got that 'it' factor.
BUT I am glad to here you like Gravel. I fucking love that man. He's the craziest (democratic) bastard I've ever heard. I mean, I agree with almost everything he says, but he does it in such a ridiculous manner. He doesn't act like a politician. He acts like a crazy drunken uncle. Ah. I love it.
Kucinich is also admirable. But he's not assertive enough I feel. He's too nice for the presidential game.
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