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impulsiveanswer

Early Season 5 Reaction

Sep 18, 2009 10:09

Frustration: A Sam-girl's early season five mini-rant

As much as I love Supernatural, there are times when I wish I've never heard of it - such as 1:20 a.m. when I can't get to sleep because I'm so indignant and frustrated at how the powers-that-be are dealing with the fall-out of last season.

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Comments 34

lfg1986 September 18 2009, 16:03:51 UTC

I gotta be honest, when I clicked on the link to this entry I thought it would be the typical Sam-girl whining and I'd get annoyed and feel the need to rant (and hey, I'm a Sam-girl, too), but what you've said here and the points you've made are all very valid and I pretty much agree w/ all of them. Very well said ( ... )

impulsiveanswer September 21 2009, 16:47:12 UTC

I wonder if the writers somehow think that Dean feeling SO BAD about what he did in Hell (which actually was just about the torturing, NOT even about breaking the seal cause he didn't know about that until much later) was his way of "owning" his mistakes for his part in things. If they do think that, they're idiots, lol.

I'm hoping the writers don't take that route because if they do, you're right they'd be idiots. No one is absolved from their mistakes, bad judgment, and the pain those can cause just because something hideous happened to them in the past.

It truly bothers me when one brother is presented as the good one/wronged one while the other is the bad one/the one who did the wronging (is that a word?) - and it would still bother me if Sam was the one being presented as the good/wronged one - because the show is better than that.

Thanks for being my first comment. Sam-girls unite (fairly and intelligently)!

ancastar September 18 2009, 16:22:22 UTC

I have to agree with virtually everything you've pointed out. I would also add that there has been no further mention of Sam's near torture in Mystery Spot. To watch his brother die again and again, no matter what he had done to try and stop it must have been devastating for Sam. And then to lose Dean altogether (for months) because of the Trickster's doing, followed by losing him to hell...

It seems to me like Sam wasn't in the best place mentally. Heck, Dean pretty much lost it after Sam had died once. Doesn't Sam get some kind of slack for what he went through?

impulsiveanswer September 21 2009, 16:58:33 UTC

Excellent point about Mystery Spot. Sam did have to deal with Dean dying over 100 times, two of which stuck for several months. I guess a lot of that torture was lost in translation because of all the humor in that episode...

I think it's easier for some people to cut Dean slack but not Sam because Dean is much easier to read while Sam keeps a much tighter lid on his emotions and has a ton of layers. It's a credit to Jared Padalecki that he plays such a complex and flawed character so fearlessly and fantastically.

absrip September 18 2009, 17:03:42 UTC

This is exactly what's been bugging me so much about these first two episodes too, very well said!

impulsiveanswer September 21 2009, 17:07:14 UTC

Thank you. I was disappointed that, after Lucifer Rising when Bobby yelled at Dean for not seeing how Sam was drowning and when Dean realized how he'd been manipulated by the angels, the show seemingly decided to go the Dean-did-nothing-wrong route. Yes, Sam has a lot to atone for - and I'm really proud that he's stepping up and taking responsibility - but that doesn't mean Dean was a saint. Both boys have flaws, and that's why they're so wonderful; denying those flaws takes away from either character.

absrip September 21 2009, 17:19:15 UTC

Amen to that:)

electricalgwen September 19 2009, 00:44:12 UTC

Very well put.

I keep waiting for these secrets to come out: Castiel opening the door to the panic room (there's a moment at which Dean blames the angels for helping the Apocalypse along, but it's not really addressed), that voicemail, Mystery Spot. It will kill me if they're just glossed over.

Also, amen to the parallels between Dean and Sam, thanks for laying them out so concisely.

impulsiveanswer September 21 2009, 17:12:59 UTC

Thanks. I didn't want to come off as some Dean-hater/Castiel-hater/Sam-whitewasher. All those secrets are killing me, especially now that Sam's are pretty much out there for the world to see.

amen to the parallels between Dean and Sam

Yeah, the writers were very good about creating the parallels; it would be a shame if they forgot all about them in S5!

percysowner September 19 2009, 01:51:34 UTC

I agree that all these issues need to be answered, especially the ones about Castiel's involvement in the whole mess. I am hopeful they will be dealt with, because by having Castiel blame Sam and Dean for starting the Apocalypse, they either have to act like we are idiots who don't remember what we have seen (and let's face it, this is a fandom that STILL wants to know why Dean's eyes bled in Bloody Mary), or they are going to have Castiel's past actions come back again, possibly to bite him and/or Dean in the behind. I'm not entirely convinced that Castiel is on Dean's side or if he is still "on the side of the Angels". Until Dean and Sam know all about his true part in the breaking of the last seal, I won't be able to judge.

impulsiveanswer September 21 2009, 17:21:19 UTC

Castiel is a lot harder to write about because we don't know a lot about him, but his owning up to what he did in 4.21 would go a long way in ending the wavering on/suspicions of the character that those who haven't embraced him still have. I just hope the writers don't think his defection from the other angels is "punishment enough" for what he did - all of the characters need to take responsibility for their actions, not just Sam.