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[imshi]

I’m going to have to get meta on you for a sec here.

I’ve been thinking.

I’m not fundamentally a bad person. I don’t condone rape. But I can’t say with any certainty that a year ago a post such as (warning: potential trigger - rape) this one would have upset me as much as it does now

Comments

[misskass]

Now I see exactly why you suggested the new rule and I completely and utterly agree. I've been lax on reading the prompts for this half of the meme, because of school and life and everything, so I didn't see this prompt when it came up, but this is wrong. Not necessarily wrong like the "Bill is slow" prompt, which actually hits every one of my Wrong Buttons, but wrong in the way that it's worded.

I am all for people finding whatever they want hot, but there are ways of writing prompts and then there are ways of writing prompts. This was not the right way.

[imshi]

I'm glad you understand. It's been bothering me since I saw it, but I don't know if I have the confidence to say something about it (to the prompter) or not. <3

[misskass]

I've posted anonymously in reply, just a simple "Isn't this kind of offensively worded?", I'll see where it goes from there. I can always step in with mah Mod Hat on if the prompter (or someone else) gets shitty at me.

[imshi]

tyyyyyyy. <3333

[tattooofhername]

I got really pissed off with the first kinkmeme post when there was the big flood of noncon requests. I can't even do the 'not my thing, but ok' stuff with those. That's just one too far, for me. I mean, brushing over the details and then having the bulk of the fic being about the aftermath, yeah, that's cool as long as you put warnings on it and do it right. That kind of 'rape porn' request shit is enough to put me in a killing rage.

Yeah, I gt issues, I know.

[imshi]

nono i understand you. i read... not even half of one of the dubcon ones (where they're forced to have sex or one/both of them will be raped?), in order to make sure that prositute!twins thing misskass and i were writing wasn't getting dubcon-y, and it just made me feel sick. i just... i don't get it. as far as i'm concerned, as soon as you start being okay with that sort of thing in fantasy situations, the more inured to it you become, the more you're going to accept it in real life situations. and that's just not acceptable.

mrbeaky and i feel the same way about the one in this post where older!bill gives younger!tom a "hands on lesson". it just felt wrong and creepy and everyone loved it and it made me really uncomfortable.

the only reason i can say your kink is not my kink is because it is a KINKmeme and there will always be things that other people enjoy that i won't in places like that. that's the ONLY reason though. in any other situation i'm not okay with it.

[tattooofhername]

I don't know if reading about it really does transfer across to real life - I mean, there is a big difference between words on a screen and an actual person. For me it's more the way that particular kind of fic seems to want to trivialize and pornify something that is neither trivial or fap-worthy. I know I take it too personally but it always leaves me feeling like my story has been hijacked somehow for someone's masturbatory purposes. Fact is, most people who enjoy noncon fic [and I will admit, I do like a well-handled dubcon] would be horrified if you accused them of that.

[imshi]

i mean that idea, of what's not real transferring to reality, is what got australia nearly censored, but for me personally, i just feel the line it treads is too close and i'd rather not go there. but i do understand your point.

i don't think i explained myself very clearly, sorry, it's quite late in sydney. i understand that the people who read noncon and enjoy it don't condone rape. what i meant was in grey areas, which are already so common and where there are already so many misconceptions and misunderstandings but can be equally damaging, it becomes easier, perhaps, to just pass them over and ignore them.

i might be wrong though. i don't really know a lot about this sort of thing.

[imshi]

i don't have any particular problem with rape fantasy in this context, though i'm uncomfortable with it, but yeah. i just do not understand how someone can write that and not see it as offensive. and the fact that no one else seems to have called the prompter up on it i think speaks pretty clearly about the way rape is viewed in society. :\ (i mean i've only called them up on it indirectly and it's taken me a while, because a) i've been busy, b) it's taken me a while to get my thoughts straight about it and c) because i don't want to get involved in a shitstorm, but i feel bad for not having the courage to say, 'hey, this isn't right'.)

[tattooofhername]

Don't forget though that the person who called out the shota fan got shouted down and told to stfu. Probably the reason nobody else stood up.

[imshi]

yeah, that probably had a quite a lot to do with it. and was actually the reason i brought up your kink is not my kink in the first place...

[ptoridactyl]

I agree with you. I've learnt a lot from the internet and fandom (bad and good things). I'm not a world-widely knowledgeable person, but I have been enlightened about things I was ignorant of before, and that I am grateful.

It also pisses me off so much when I hear people flippantly joke about rape or use it as a "cool" phrase, like "oh that exam totally butt raped me". I'm never the person to which the speaker directs that comment to, it's usually someone passing by me who says that, so I can't just turn around and tell them off. But I always, always want to.

[imshi]

it's just not appropriate, and it's offensive, and it trivialises something that shouldn't be trivialised. :| i'm not gonna lie, i have used phrases like that before, but i don't think i would now. i've learnt too much.