Hiding in Plain Sight.

Aug 18, 2007 14:25

According to LJ, graphical depictions of minors in sexual situations are not allowed, even if they are fictional or fantastical. This includes fan art and drawings, and there have been highly controversial deletions of journals and communities as a result of this.

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seraphicideals August 18 2007, 21:59:18 UTC
._. I think you meant to post this as a post and not a reply.

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seraphicideals August 18 2007, 22:09:46 UTC
Join the community, from the user info (profile) page, and then go to update journal and where it says "Post to:" choose the community rather than your own personal journal. :)

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serenanna August 18 2007, 22:01:29 UTC
I think I can answer this in both regards.

shota and yaoi_daily are both up and functioning still because no one in those communities has ratted out the other yet as seems to be the case with Pornish since all four images reported came from there. Pornish also wasn't adult-locked until Ponderosa and Elaboration got canned, but even after it was locked, two more users were given warnings. So, someone in Pornish's membership is a mole or a troll doing it to keep this on-going debacle fuel. My own theory of why they haven't hit the obvious anime communities yet is because the collective yaoi fandom would shit bricks. yaoi_daily has 17,000+ members after all, and shota has almost 4,000. If Harry Potter fans are bad, anime fans are worse ( ... )

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pheret1 August 18 2007, 23:02:21 UTC
Yes! (hey, any yaoi or shota fans want to ask some friends to take my poll? I'd love to have a bigger sample?)

Even Stepford users, as I may have appeared to be, might end up being thorny bugs in SA/LJ's side over this.

Maybe someone should mention to Mena or Barak or the marketing or advertising team that instead of teenybob girls (who they grudgingly refer to as "fiercely independent" after whatever that first user-revolt was) they actually have the (possibly non-hip variety of) indi underground of every walk of life.

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serenanna August 18 2007, 23:13:43 UTC
Well, I'm not really a fan of those comms myself, but I am standing up for my fandom, and fellow fangirls. I only found about yaoi daily from a friend's profile, and checked it out, but haven't joined it. You may want to check them out though and contact the mods/owner about the poll. Both of them stated that they won't allow social postings, so something from the mod would be your best shot.

Your poll is really skewed compared to LJ's stats on the ages of users. These issues really seem to be impacting a lot of the 30 and over adults more so than the high-school/college crowds . . . damn, I feel young! Aren't I supposed to be immature at my age? ^_^;;

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pheret1 August 18 2007, 23:20:05 UTC
Yeah, I apologize for that sincerely and wish I could change it. But the stats on how many disaffected had paid accounts, how active they were, and how many have left or plan to leave are something that's eye-opening.

And at least the age skewering REALLY proves we're not all high-school kids!!!!

But the part I didn't think would be the best to represent "us" but turned out to be the most compelling thing was the "describe your single biggest issue." It's really breaking down into only a couple of very clear categories and I'm thinking of making a spreadsheet and using it to focus us and to ask directly for certain things from 6A. Maybe.

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seraphicideals August 18 2007, 22:33:01 UTC
Yeah, I recall that it got deleted and reinstated. I don't know much about chemicalwhores, though, thank you. (I just did an interests search for "drugs" and it showed up.)

I also don't think there should be any witchhunts at all. Censorship is bad, that's why we're all here, right? It's just mostly bothering me how it seems like they're targeting pornish_pixies above all else. I had a journal deleted in the original strikethrough, actually. ^^;

But above all else, LiveJournal is a business...it's a business of trying to manage human communities, which of course presents the interesting problem of dealing with people being...well...not what is considered "morally pristine" and such. It doesn't seem to be working very well.

(Also: I know the manga your icon is from. X3)

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blackvoodoomage August 19 2007, 03:18:03 UTC
Of course, because Dr. Ten is all kinds of awesome and everyone who's everybody knows her manga. XD

On a serious not, you are right; but as had been said before (WOW. That sentence came out awkward.), they're a private company and thus--can do what they want, really.

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setos_puppy August 19 2007, 16:38:39 UTC
Mmm..

*worships Dr. Ten*

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emarkienna August 18 2007, 22:25:40 UTC
There is a pretty good population of drug communities on LiveJournal. As far as I'm aware, abuse of drugs is still illegal in the United States.

Because, after the whole deleting-500-accounts-for-listing-"illegal interests" fiasco, I hope LJ got the message that talking about illegal things isn't itself illegal.

It's a shame that they still want to clamp down on fictional images, but shouldn't we be glad that they aren't still stuck with the bizarre "talking about illegal things is illegal" idea?

Also, what communities have been deleted as a result of the policy on depictions of minors?

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seraphicideals August 18 2007, 22:37:15 UTC
Hmm. I guess I can't really think of any communities deleted specifically, but I was under the impression some were. I know communities like "loliconprex" and "__loli_lovin" (something like that, don't recall the exact number of underscores) were deleted at some point, but that might pre-date Strikethrough.

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havelocke August 18 2007, 23:45:36 UTC
shh, I agree.(love ur icon)

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seraphicideals August 18 2007, 23:49:55 UTC
<3

Hee, I knew you'd comment like that.

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