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Re: that whole episode was written to a very low level of competence irishka1205 May 1 2009, 21:55:45 UTC
Way over the top. And Dean sure needs to learn how to talk to Sam and not just lock him up when Sam does something....not very healthy.

Yeah those scenes from next week...well, the rational voice in my head keeps telling me that somehow Kripke will have to put the boys back together. there are 22 more episodes that they need to be in and it will not work with them separated that entire time. But then again, he's Kripke and doesn't seem to care about what works and what doesn't anymore.

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lovebanshee May 2 2009, 17:39:06 UTC
Yeah I better see some major regret next episode about this. I can't imagine them hearing Sam scream down there and not thinking to talk to him or to explain themselves or to hear what Sam has to say or ANYTHING. I'm just going to wait to see what Dean and Bobby do about it and not say too much right now.
This... will be terrible. I haven't been as excited for an ep as I am for this next one. My brain is high on SPN. Need... my.. fix.

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irishka1205 May 2 2009, 19:24:16 UTC
can't imagine them hearing Sam scream down there and not thinking to talk to him or to explain themselves or to hear what Sam has to say or ANYTHING.

Just thinking about it is making me want to kick the crap out Dean myself.

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the_summoning_d May 3 2009, 11:57:49 UTC
Dude, I just had a thought.

In the course of a hunter's work, especially after the Gate opened in AHBL, you're going to have to deal a lot with possessions - not to mention other nasties like ghouls, shapeshifters, and werewolves. So obviously you're going to have to learn to make a mental separation between what you're dealing with and whose face they're wearing. Now think back to Devil's Trap. Remember how when YED was possessing John, Dean didn't hesitate to pull a gun on him, because he knew that wasn't his dad - and from a fairly subtle cue as well.

When you apply this thinking to what happens at the end of Rapture and suddenly everything makes a lot more sense. Dean's picked up on the cues in this situation - seriously, drinking demon blood? Really Sam? - and made what is, from his point of view, a fairly reasonable assumption. He's made that differentiation between who and what. Dean doesn't think he's dealing with his brother any more.

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irishka1205 May 3 2009, 15:30:33 UTC
I can see that. Dean's always been the black and white kind of guy. Except, the rules never applied to Sam before.

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the_summoning_d May 3 2009, 15:49:20 UTC
I don't know, I think Dean's opening up to the idea of shades of grey - remember Casey the demon barmaid? And of course after Hell there's a bit of a pot-kettle thing going on anyway. Thing is though, if my theory isn't about to get thoroughly Kripke'd on Thursday, then Dean doesn't think he's dealing with Sam any more - like I said above, the same way he pulled the Colt as soon as he was sure he wasn't really dealing with John.

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irishka1205 May 3 2009, 15:52:41 UTC
Unfortunately my idea is a lot more depressing. *sighs*

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