The Whole Catholic Birth Control Thing

Feb 13, 2012 19:55

While I'm being controversial!

Why is this an issue? )

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engelhardtlm1 February 14 2012, 04:24:28 UTC
YES.

To me, the "tax" argument is particularly stupid. It suggests that these people don't actually know what taxes ARE, as they conflate "taxes" and "prices".

I think a lot of the foundational problem, though, is that people don't actually think through their views of "rights". They want to arbitrarily decide that things are "rights" without any thought to guiding universal principles. So, we end up with
people claiming an ad hoc mishmash of contradictory "rights". (And we start claiming things as rights that weren't even technically possible to be provided to the grand majority of humanity throughout our history! How can something be a universal human "right" when it is actually impossible to provide it to someone?)

The only thing I disagree with... I'm pretty sure "Disney World" is two words. ;-)

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irked_indeed February 14 2012, 04:52:53 UTC
Ack - the key to my whole argument!

It's so maddening. The tangential issues are not the point; the incoherent set of principles is. This should not be a controversial claim.

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whirlwindmonk February 14 2012, 12:32:03 UTC
To me, the "tax" argument is particularly stupid. It suggests that these people don't actually know what taxes ARE, as they conflate "taxes" and "prices".

Absolutely. It's right up there with the argument that not taking more money through taxes costs the government money. It's all doublespeak in order to paint whatever argument the person supports in a more positive light.

So, we end up with people claiming an ad hoc mishmash of contradictory "rights".

Yeah, any time someone claims that people have a "right" to something that can only be provided by the effort of others, you basically end up with the conclusion that you have a right to other people's property, but not your own. Craziness...

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