Well I havn't been to Oly for awhile but all the times I have been there Violence HAS broken out. Now that may have changed recently but I'm just stating my point on how rediculous the message was.
As for Kitsap I've been to only one game up there so far so I don't know if it is violent or not. Didn't mean to bash Olympia because I know some cool people down there. However I'm not exagerating when I say some of the cheesiest things I've ever seen in the cam have happened in Olympia.
Unfortunately, that's how it's been for me for the last ... oh ... I dunno ... five years ?!
Olympia *IS* that bad and until it improves, I will NEVER transfer my membership, and I'll rarely play there as a member. It's not the IC stuff, it's all OOC and how it's being handled (Both Coordinator AND Storyteller wise).
I think that Ironrage and myself *BOTH* have given Olympia a great chance, since we've moved closer (which is one reason I haven't responded to your post until now) and nothing has really changed.
And you're right, it really is unfortunate, but until things have improved (read above again if you're confused) there's no reason for me to support, visit or become active in the Olympia Domain. Which is extremely unfortunate for the Olympia Domain because you're losing out on two great long standing members of the Camarilla.
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You really seem to have a bone to pick with Olympia, and thats... unfortunate.
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As for Kitsap I've been to only one game up there so far so I don't know if it is violent or not. Didn't mean to bash Olympia because I know some cool people down there. However I'm not exagerating when I say some of the cheesiest things I've ever seen in the cam have happened in Olympia.
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Olympia *IS* that bad and until it improves, I will NEVER transfer my membership, and I'll rarely play there as a member. It's not the IC stuff, it's all OOC and how it's being handled (Both Coordinator AND Storyteller wise).
I think that Ironrage and myself *BOTH* have given Olympia a great chance, since we've moved closer (which is one reason I haven't responded to your post until now) and nothing has really changed.
And you're right, it really is unfortunate, but until things have improved (read above again if you're confused) there's no reason for me to support, visit or become active in the Olympia Domain. Which is extremely unfortunate for the Olympia Domain because you're losing out on two great long standing members of the Camarilla.
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