Comments | iskra_revoir: Arizona law & Memories

iskra_revoir

Arizona law & Memories

Jul 28, 2010 22:37

In an ideal world, there would be no crimes or violence or economical crisis, and country borders wouldn´t be neccesary.
But, as I´m sure everybody can realize, we don´t live in an ideal world.

I say this because I´m about to comment on a subject I usually avoid, both on and off line. Politics. I wouldn´t get close to that particular theme if not ( Read more... )

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ocvalkyrie July 29 2010, 06:05:24 UTC

I totally agree with you that we, as Americans, are descended from immigrants. My grandmother came straight from Ireland herself. I have no quarrel with letting all these Mexicans who want to find a new life. I just think they should have to register to become U.S. citizens. If they want to fulfill their dream--and this goes for all nationalities, not just Mexicans--then they should do it by this country's laws. If I were to move to another country, I would be required to have a visa or become a legal citizen. Sorry, I usually try to avoid politics online, too. I can very opinionated, so don't take this personally. I'm very open to seeing other countries and learning all about them, possibly moving to them.

-Valk

iskra_revoir July 29 2010, 17:51:50 UTC

I think that fulfilling all the legal requisites is the correct way of doing the things if you are going to another country and, as I said, I don´t approve of illegal immigration, from Mexico to USA or from other countries to Mexico or from any other place, because is, well, illegal and I think that ignoring the laws is wrong.

That said, what I don´t like are the points in that law that leave room for discrimination or that try to take attributions that are responsability of the federal law. And I don´t care for a woman that says that most illegal immigrants entering the state are transporting drugs, either.

ocvalkyrie July 30 2010, 01:00:09 UTC

Yeah, despite being free, America is really screwed up on the laws degree. It's probably not very smart of me to be bashing my own country on the internet like this, but we really do leave a lot of room for improvement. Makes me wonder why terrorists hate us so much. We're nowhere near perfect. I could go on and on, but I won't for your sake.

-Valk

iskra_revoir July 30 2010, 18:26:33 UTC

You know hun, I think that every country has room for improvement. There´s not such thing as political perfection in our poor tired world.
And you are right, let´s not start talking about terrorism, becasue that´s another thing that gets in my nerves. So much sadness and destruction make my heart ache, and there hasn´t even been a terrorist attack in Mexico for as long as I know!

misspopuri July 29 2010, 14:12:19 UTC

I am not trying to disagree with you, but I know for a fact that the Arizona Immigration Law was not discriminatory. Cops were NOT, I repeat, WERE NOT allowed to pull people over for racial purposes within the writing of the law. The law was enacted to enforce the Federal Immigration Law already on the books. Arizona had the right to protect itself, and illegal immigrants would only have gotten asked to show their papers if they were pulled over for a traffic violation like speeding or something like a drug bust ( ... )

iskra_revoir July 29 2010, 18:21:59 UTC

Of course, everyone has a right to have their own opinion, and I know that this matter is probably none of my business, since I don´t even live near the border and the only immigrant I know in the USA was a brilliant teacher of mine that got a job offer in Houston and is living there legally.

While checking that legislation´s history, I noted that the the point you mention (about cops not being allowed to pull people over for racial purposes) was an amend made on the law on April 30 that I was not aware of (Blame it on all the finals I had that week, they are the reason I was so disconnected from the news). The points I mentioned are from the original writing of the law without knowing of the amends, and for that, I apologize.

But I´m not stranger to discrimination. I have been discriminated for my sex, physical appearence and even religion, and I don´t use that word lightly. And I´m still indignant over Arizona´s governor many tactless and yes, discriminatory comments, that are yet to be backed up by hard numbers and facts ( ... )

misspopuri July 30 2010, 14:46:57 UTC

[i]And if it can´t be trusted that the president of USA and it´s department of justice know their own legislation...well, then I would say that Americans have a bigger problem in their hands.[/i ( ... )

iskra_revoir July 30 2010, 23:22:45 UTC

I´m sorry, but I think that saying that most mexican immigrants are drug mules would be like me saying that most american residents here are pedophiles just because there have been several child complaints against some of them in the past (Thomas White´s being probably the biggest case of child abuse I can remember ever being in Vallarta). Not only would that be unfair and incorrect, it would also be offensive for the vast majority of American residents who are definitely not involved in such sordid matters ( ... )

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