So this prompt kind of bothered me
It's from spnkink_meme
This often doesn't happen. I am more or less fine with people liking whatever. Let people live. Ce La Vie, Les a fair and all that good stuff. But I think I was bothered by this prompt in particular because I felt that the person didn't really understand what they were asking for. Perhaps it was just me but here is the source material:
Original Prompt:
Jeff and Jensen have been married for 4 years and are very happy. One day after coming home from work Jeff tells Jen he has met someone, cares deeply for them and would like Jen to meet him as he feels he would be a great addition to their family. Jensen has been abused by a past boyfriend and was happy to have Jeff all to himself. He is really insecure and believes Jeff doesn't love him anymore. When he meets Jared who is 6'4, muscled and gorgeous he believes Jeff is replacing him, especially when he spends less time with Jen and more with Jared. When Jared marries into the family and they go on their honeymoon, Jensen discovers he is pregnant and worries Jeff with kick him out.
Jeff notices Jensen becoming more withdrawn as the weeks pass and becomes concerned he is sick. When he calls the doctor to arrange an appointment the nurse lets slip about the pregnancy believing he knows. That night Jeff + Jared both show Jensen they are happy about the baby and have slow sweet sex with Jensen in the middle. Jen finally accepts Jared and the baby and is really happy.
Deviated Prompt proposal:
There have been a lot of prompts (and AWESOME fills) lately involving Jeff and Jensen as a married couple where Jared is brought into the marriage. Problems ensue when Jensen finds out he's pregnant and thinks a) Jeff will want a divorce and b) Jared will replace him completely.
I'd like to see a spin on this where male pregnancy is extremely dangerous. (I mean really, how's the baby supposed to come out?) I envision it like this: these miraculously fertile men don't have a means of giving birth naturally so they have to deliver via C-section. And that means they have to schedule the surgery before the labour can begin, otherwise there's almost 100% certainty that the man will bleed to death. I want serious complications and serious risk of death for poor, frightened, pregnant!Jensen.
You can add the stuff with Jeff having "no kids" as part of their prenup if you want, but it's not necessary if you don't feel that's how you want to take it.
Mostly, I just want Jensen to be dealing with his feelings of being replaced, especially if he believes it's likely he'll die in childbirth (angsting about it being an easy excuse for Jeff and Jared to get rid of him -- since he'll just die when it's time for the baby to be born).
It'd also be neat to see another spin on the other prompts: where Jeff's the one who's the softer heart (and is crazy about his first husband, Jensen) and Jared maybe is trying to get rid of Jensen.
Take it wherever you want it -- I just want the added bonus of Jensen's pregnancy being VERY DANGEROUS. (And though I didn't specify it, they're all dudes and Jensen bottoms.) ;)
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Of course my problem is the bolded part. I don't know why I couldn't just let it roll off me like a lot of other things but this kind of got to the writer in me and I decided to try to make it work. Usually when I write I try to streamline a plot in my head and make it speak to me to where I can create the world and characters more or less.
I tried to streamline this in my head and I found Jeff being completely faultless in the situation to be a relative impossibility. Even without the unwanted pregnancy and pre-nuptial agreement angle there are still three or four problems within the Jeff and Jensen relationship that are all aggravated in part by Jeff’s decisions in the original prompt. We still have to deal with:
A.) Jeff’s preferential treatment towards Jared which causes Jensen’s jealousy. A husband should never treat one spouse better than the other if things are to be equal in the relationship. I guess you could side step and say Jensen is overreacting but the insecurity and fear here has to come from somewhere. It can’t be completely unfounded, Jensen feels this way with Jeff particularly for a reason. Unless he is just completely irrational and that just makes Jensen look bad.
B.) Jeff’s family insulting Jensen and Jeff doing nothing about it also paints Jeff in a rather bad light. He isn’t standing up for his husband or trying to stop the ridicule from his family and that’s another big issue.
C.) This is point is actual made more prominent by the current prompt but it’s still there even in the original one. If Jared and Jensen don’t like each other and Jared is an antagonist to Jensen. That makes Jeff’s marriage to him even worse because he isn’t considering Jensen’s feelings in regard to bringing another person into their union. Which means Jeff doesn’t respect Jensen’s feelings and jealously of his relationship with Jared. Also if there is no love between Jared and Jensen the triangle falls apart. They are only in the marriage for Jeff.
In conclusion Jared being the bad guy does not solve the problems Jeff and Jensen have. Nor does it really make Jeff look any better. You would have to completely restructure the prompt to make Jeff infallible but even then problems A and C still remain. Jared isn’t the problem. The problems are still Jeff actions which are making Jensen feel undervalued.
If anything Jared being evil only makes Jeff seem worse because he continues to proceed with the marriage even though Jensen doesn’t want Jared to be a part of their union. So Jeff winds up in an even worse position he was before by not valuing Jensen’s wants and also makes things even more antagonistic for a pregnant/on the verge of death Jensen. Instead of having one husband who is unsupportive of him he now has two as well as Jeff’s side of the family who largely despise him. This makes it that much more improbable that Jensen would want to be with either of them even if he does survive.
Just my two cents.
This often doesn't happen. I am more or less fine with people liking whatever. Let people live. Ce La Vie, Les a fair and all that good stuff. But I think I was bothered by this prompt in particular because I felt that the person didn't really understand what they were asking for. Perhaps it was just me but here is the source material:
Original Prompt:
Jeff and Jensen have been married for 4 years and are very happy. One day after coming home from work Jeff tells Jen he has met someone, cares deeply for them and would like Jen to meet him as he feels he would be a great addition to their family. Jensen has been abused by a past boyfriend and was happy to have Jeff all to himself. He is really insecure and believes Jeff doesn't love him anymore. When he meets Jared who is 6'4, muscled and gorgeous he believes Jeff is replacing him, especially when he spends less time with Jen and more with Jared. When Jared marries into the family and they go on their honeymoon, Jensen discovers he is pregnant and worries Jeff with kick him out.
Jeff notices Jensen becoming more withdrawn as the weeks pass and becomes concerned he is sick. When he calls the doctor to arrange an appointment the nurse lets slip about the pregnancy believing he knows. That night Jeff + Jared both show Jensen they are happy about the baby and have slow sweet sex with Jensen in the middle. Jen finally accepts Jared and the baby and is really happy.
Deviated Prompt proposal:
There have been a lot of prompts (and AWESOME fills) lately involving Jeff and Jensen as a married couple where Jared is brought into the marriage. Problems ensue when Jensen finds out he's pregnant and thinks a) Jeff will want a divorce and b) Jared will replace him completely.
I'd like to see a spin on this where male pregnancy is extremely dangerous. (I mean really, how's the baby supposed to come out?) I envision it like this: these miraculously fertile men don't have a means of giving birth naturally so they have to deliver via C-section. And that means they have to schedule the surgery before the labour can begin, otherwise there's almost 100% certainty that the man will bleed to death. I want serious complications and serious risk of death for poor, frightened, pregnant!Jensen.
You can add the stuff with Jeff having "no kids" as part of their prenup if you want, but it's not necessary if you don't feel that's how you want to take it.
Mostly, I just want Jensen to be dealing with his feelings of being replaced, especially if he believes it's likely he'll die in childbirth (angsting about it being an easy excuse for Jeff and Jared to get rid of him -- since he'll just die when it's time for the baby to be born).
It'd also be neat to see another spin on the other prompts: where Jeff's the one who's the softer heart (and is crazy about his first husband, Jensen) and Jared maybe is trying to get rid of Jensen.
Take it wherever you want it -- I just want the added bonus of Jensen's pregnancy being VERY DANGEROUS. (And though I didn't specify it, they're all dudes and Jensen bottoms.) ;)
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Of course my problem is the bolded part. I don't know why I couldn't just let it roll off me like a lot of other things but this kind of got to the writer in me and I decided to try to make it work. Usually when I write I try to streamline a plot in my head and make it speak to me to where I can create the world and characters more or less.
I tried to streamline this in my head and I found Jeff being completely faultless in the situation to be a relative impossibility. Even without the unwanted pregnancy and pre-nuptial agreement angle there are still three or four problems within the Jeff and Jensen relationship that are all aggravated in part by Jeff’s decisions in the original prompt. We still have to deal with:
A.) Jeff’s preferential treatment towards Jared which causes Jensen’s jealousy. A husband should never treat one spouse better than the other if things are to be equal in the relationship. I guess you could side step and say Jensen is overreacting but the insecurity and fear here has to come from somewhere. It can’t be completely unfounded, Jensen feels this way with Jeff particularly for a reason. Unless he is just completely irrational and that just makes Jensen look bad.
B.) Jeff’s family insulting Jensen and Jeff doing nothing about it also paints Jeff in a rather bad light. He isn’t standing up for his husband or trying to stop the ridicule from his family and that’s another big issue.
C.) This is point is actual made more prominent by the current prompt but it’s still there even in the original one. If Jared and Jensen don’t like each other and Jared is an antagonist to Jensen. That makes Jeff’s marriage to him even worse because he isn’t considering Jensen’s feelings in regard to bringing another person into their union. Which means Jeff doesn’t respect Jensen’s feelings and jealously of his relationship with Jared. Also if there is no love between Jared and Jensen the triangle falls apart. They are only in the marriage for Jeff.
In conclusion Jared being the bad guy does not solve the problems Jeff and Jensen have. Nor does it really make Jeff look any better. You would have to completely restructure the prompt to make Jeff infallible but even then problems A and C still remain. Jared isn’t the problem. The problems are still Jeff actions which are making Jensen feel undervalued.
If anything Jared being evil only makes Jeff seem worse because he continues to proceed with the marriage even though Jensen doesn’t want Jared to be a part of their union. So Jeff winds up in an even worse position he was before by not valuing Jensen’s wants and also makes things even more antagonistic for a pregnant/on the verge of death Jensen. Instead of having one husband who is unsupportive of him he now has two as well as Jeff’s side of the family who largely despise him. This makes it that much more improbable that Jensen would want to be with either of them even if he does survive.
Just my two cents.