I still can't believe he said that

Jul 15, 2009 13:56

On this afternoon's edition of Things Gwen Despises: friends who turn out to be closet homophobes ( Read more... )

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joaniechachi July 15 2009, 19:46:12 UTC
Boo! That's totally lame of that dude. I bet he is also of the opinion that lesbians are all virgins because they've never had sex with a penis.

As a matter of technical nitpicking, I think it is possible to support homosexuality while being averse to anal sex, as long as oral sex and mutual masturbation are supported. I know there are gay men who, as a matter of interpreting the commandments of their Jewish faith, see anal sex as prohibited and don't engage in it, but do see themselves as having sex with their partners when they engage in sexually stimulating activities. Then again, they aren't going around telling other people how to live their lives. Perhaps it's different to hold a belief than to proselytize it.

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ithych July 15 2009, 23:08:12 UTC
I think it is possible to support homosexuality while being averse to anal sex

Well, okay, yes. But there's still a big difference between "I wouldn't choose to live my life that way" and "OMG that's Disgusting and Wrong."

Proselytize is a good word (or, rather, the lack thereof). The point is that, even if you don't want to engage in a certain behavior yourself, there's no need to spread stigma about that behavior.

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heatrose July 15 2009, 20:00:05 UTC
you should tell him that (being on the "receiving" end of) anal sex can be good for men's health-- i.e. it stimulates the prostate and can prevent prostate cancer. at least, that's what dan savage told me at one point, or how i interpreted something he said...

also, if your assumptions were otherwise accurate and he's otherwise a good guy, he's prob worth not writing off. i have a friend who at one point said things like "people who were into bdsm must have been abused as children"... and ze's since gone to "pain can be kind of cool", and now ze's pursuing someone who is in the bdsm scene in a serious way. he (going back to your friend, now) might have internalized the stigma because he hasn't been exposed to anything else. or i could be giving him too much credit, but a lot of the time people make stupid judgments about things because of ignorance, y'know?

and lucky you, spending lots of time among uber-leftist bi poly awesome people!

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ithych July 15 2009, 23:13:10 UTC
anal sex can be good for men's health-- i.e. it stimulates the prostate and can prevent prostate cancer.

Hah! I'll have to find some sources on that, and for sure pass it on.

he's otherwise a good guy

I was already in doubt about this because he's often an ass toward a mutual acquaintance of ours (friend of mine, not-so-much friend of his). I have tried to be lenient and understanding about their little feud, but Johnny is not the sympathetic character in the conflict. So really? Maybe he's just an ass.

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