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[jamie_dakin]

Cut for miarr, because she hasn't seen Last of the Time Lords yet. Oh just you wait for this weekend my pretty... Our LoM weekend of debauchery was nothing compared to this.

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[miarr]

I haven't read anything of the cut, just wanted to say, thank you for being precious and thinking of me. ♥ I can hardly wait; oh, weekend, why art thou so far away? *g*

[jamie_dakin]

Well I wouldn't be a very good pimp if I just gave it all away... ;)

BTW, I've been meaning to suggest, unless everyone has other plans, that we all go see Order of the Phoenix together? It's been a while since we all got together to squeal over something.

[miarr]

BTW, I've been meaning to suggest, unless everyone has other plans, that we all go see Order of the Phoenix together? It's been a while since we all got together to squeal over something.

Capital idea! I shall phone the other two Preciouses ASAP. ♥ When does it reach Israeli cinema?

[jamie_dakin]

July 11th, which is a Thursday I believe.
Just tell me what day is best for everyone so I can plan Le' escape from Tel Aviv.

[stars_fell]

*here via doctorwho*

Oh, Jesus. I couldn't look at my screen during that part of the Confidential. I felt like a damn intruder.

[jamie_dakin]

I felt like a damn intruder.

*nods*

Exactly.
The thing is that during the ep itself they used one of the tamer cries and so when they showed the harsher takes during Confidential I was just so completely unprepared for it.

I just wanted to cover my eyes and ears and cover those of everyone else as well. Just... just give them their moment. And yet obviously, it was the one scene I was waiting for.

[principia]

Some of their decisions about which take to use may have been as much about how well the sound got picked up as anything else.

I felt especially bad for Billie Piper during the Doomsday beach shoot (as did DT, from the scowl on his face during his diary entry) when she had to do her full-on freakout twice, because her nose had run too much during the first take. During the second her hair was in her face too much, so they ended up having to intercut the two takes to get what we eventually saw on-screen.

I thought John Simm's comment that he best remembered getting poked in the eye with David Tennant's stubble was a little odd - I would think nearly being deafened by the screaming would've stuck out more. Maybe they gave him earplugs.

[jamie_dakin]

Oh god, he was beyond brilliant. I mean he just went for it; spit and tears and unattractive snorting... the man sold it for more than it was worth.

And I was so disappointed that all John said (or all they showed John saying) was that all he could remember was that he "got eye-stubble from Tennant." I mean come on man, say he was intense, say he nailed it. Just "it was a good scene?"

But then I think I sort of convinced myself that he doesn't want to talk about it. I know I couldn't wouldn't.

[aristaea]

I sort of convinced myself that he doesn't want to talk about it.

. . . I did that too. But then it must also be weird to be an actor on the receiving end of David's little breakdown, and then asked to tell all for the fans.

[principia]

And that almighty cold sweat he'd broken out in too!

I wonder if there are comments from John Simm that they didn't use because the Confidential would've taken 'too' maudlin a turn.

[aristaea]

I agree with most of what you said. I don't really feel weird watching it, maybe because I did theatre as a kid and so I like watching actors work, but I do have it playing over and over it my head. It was a beautiful scene, and so incredibly real and raw. I can't imagine how they did it over and over and over again to get all the right shots; I'm fairly good at calling up emotions on demand, and just imagining what the Doctor must have felt like at losing the Master drains all the energy out of me.

At the same time, it's kind of a rush. All that emotion is accompanied by adrenaline, and from a neuropsych perspective I'd say it's probably the old fight-or-flight response getting my body ready to do something. So I like watching it, because it feels bad, but also really good.

As shadowsyra mentioned, I had trouble with it the first time I watched it because I watched from a fairly analytical POV, and I kept thinking about what John Simm the actor must have been feeling with David Tennant grasping him and yelling like the world was going to end

[jamie_dakin]

I'm in psychology because I'm nosy

Hee. My mom asked me why I was considering psychology for uni and I said - Er, I like to pry and excuse it with science?

See, that's what I can't seem to be able to wrap my little brain around. What is it like to be in John's position in a scene like that? I don't think I'll ever be able to understand it.

So I like watching it, because it feels bad, but also really good.
Yes, that's exactly it. It's a horrible feeling but I actively pursue it.

Fight-or-flight. Feels nice to have it articulated properly.

[qtrhorserider]

I've been thinking about what it was like for John Sim too. Having done theatre, I imagine that he was concentrating on "playing dead", which is not as easy as it sounds. He was probably so into being dead without laughing (like I said, done theatre, giggles get you at the worst, most improbably moments)that he probably doesn't remember anything but the stubble.

Amazing, amazing job these guys do...

[glitterfairy25]

I'm afraid I just thought it was entirely cringe-inducing. My exact thoughts were "I bet John is not happy with David yelling in his ear so much..."