Comments | jane2005: Fandoms explode!

jane2005

Fandoms explode!

May 31, 2007 10:32

Say what you will about the recent WFI-created journal suspension, free speech, and Six Apart's late but welcome humble abjection of their royal f**k-up (see the official apology at livejournal.com - I'd direct to Barak's LJ page, but it's currently jammed and my IE freezes every time I go there - how many comments do you want to bet that post has ( Read more... )

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pclu2004 May 31 2007, 14:52:58 UTC

Last I saw, there were over 4500 replies to his post, it is so clogged you cannot link to it.

jane2005 May 31 2007, 15:02:17 UTC

I managed to get up for a second, and there were like 25 pages of response.

Yep, this just goes to show, threaten someone's gay porn interests, and just see what happens...

jane2005 May 31 2007, 15:10:34 UTC

Oops, sorry, 76 pages. SEVENTY SIX.

damietta May 31 2007, 15:02:11 UTC

It WAS a pleasant surprise and I actually read the whole thing. Very good move on their part. Crow is hard to eat, but they did a good job.

jane2005 May 31 2007, 15:09:56 UTC

I agree. Though I did manage to get up at Barak's site, and read some comments that are being a tad unreasonable, IMO. I do agree that it's really problematic that people's rights and basic good sense are thrown on the junk heap when someone comes in screaming "but the children are assaulted/the terrorists are coming..." or whatever, but that doesn't mean that child abuse and terrorism should be ignored altogether in favor of whatever. Having said that, I do think basic constitutional rights - such as privacy and free speech - need to be given the weightier end of the argument (I'm with the ACLU on this one). Glamour magazine did a poll of its readers in the late 80s or early 90s, whenever I was still reading crap like that, that showed something like 65% of its readers were willing to give up their constitutional rights to have a safer environment to live in. That really frightened me - but I see echoes of that all through this ( ... )

cempakasari May 31 2007, 20:25:56 UTC

I am very interested to read his response to several claims that groups and individual ljers had made reports and directed SA's attention to genuine paedophiles' ljer but basically got frosty responses from LJ Abuse team. That was why people are thinking that the reason this incident happened was because WfI threatened SA with their advertisement revenue. And then to rub salt into wound, those same journals are still alive and kicking.

jane2005 May 31 2007, 21:39:03 UTC

read his response to several claims that groups and individual ljers had made reports and directed SA's attention to genuine paedophiles' ljer but basically got frosty responses from LJ Abuse team.
Do you have a link to that? Or, just describe here - what was his response? I've been not following a huge amount of this - there's so much.

people are thinking that the reason this incident happened was because WfI threatened SA with their advertisement revenue.

With good reason. After the Goodyear decision, we're living in a corporate environment, fuck the individual.

And then to rub salt into wound, those same journals are still alive and kicking.

Well. There you go.

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agneson9 May 31 2007, 16:09:37 UTC

each post has a maximum of 5001 comments. i think there is an effort to clog news. people are moving post-to-post after 5001

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jane2005 May 31 2007, 19:11:55 UTC

5001 comments

Damn! I can't read that many!

i think there is an effort to clog news.

Conspiracy? On teh internets? NO.

mi_nion June 1 2007, 01:03:46 UTC

I went to the WFI website during lunch. Those folks are scary! It's groups like this that make folks who are really doing good look nuts. One poster responded that she was glad they did that and wanted them to report fanficrants because she cause her kid reading some fic that she had linked to from that comm. Um... how about you police your kids internet use or I dunno have a conversation about sex with your kid?

jane2005 June 1 2007, 02:20:32 UTC

Yeah, they are, and vigilante groups generally tend to impede actual law enforcement. Of course, LE is PART OF THE GODLESS SATAN DRIVEN MINIONS OF THE GOVERNMENT OMG so who can trust them?

Um... how about you police your kids internet use or I dunno have a conversation about sex with your kid?

Ironically, despite the fact that Satan is behind every corporate and governmental entity, it is still their job to police the children.

But yeah, exactly. Apparently, these people are too busy on their computers panicking over the potential the children may be OMG HURT they forget to actually take care of the children.

None of this is doing any good to my attempt to see people in a better light.

larissa_j June 1 2007, 03:46:16 UTC

Here's what happens when you let monkeys run querys and then you don't verify the data. You get cracktastic results and randomly deleted content. Dude, they need to send their monkeys back to school for db 101.

I didn't freak out. To be honest, I thought they were going to hold to their ToS and tell fandom to suck it up in the name of teh childrenz.

Now, if only we could have a similar freak-out over the assault on women's rights happening in the courts...

*points and laughs* You kill me. You really do

jane2005 June 1 2007, 03:57:55 UTC

Dude, they need to send their monkeys back to school for db 101.

BURN MONKEYS BURN!!!

I didn't freak out. To be honest, I thought they were going to hold to their ToS and tell fandom to suck it up in the name of teh childrenz.

Me too. I was all, Meh. My cynical side had me giggling as I watched from the sidelines, and then I was pleasantly surprised. I did appreciate the freakout for the results - but was too cynical to be surprised by any of this.

I have enjoyed the wank, though.

*points and laughs* You kill me. You really do

I should have put an *insert ironic tone here* after that, but yeah, in my defense, it was meant ironically.

We are so on the same page.