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Aug 24, 2005 13:15

I am sick and tired of hearing about Cindy Sheehan. I was listening to talk radio in the car this morning and everyone is talking about her. I heard some interview clips of her's and I cannot believe the ignorance that she spouts. I agree with the talk show hosts... she is simply a pawn that the liberals and pro-terrorists are using to the max ( Read more... )

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crankybastard August 25 2005, 01:56:04 UTC

I wish I hadn't read this, because now I'm fucking pissed.

liberals and pro-terrorists

Oh, of course. Liberals and pro-terrorists are the same thing, obviously. Liberals are traitors, terrorists, anti-American, pinko commies, on and on and on. Liberals are always wrong about everything, liberals are the only ones who lie and the only ones who have an "agenda." And anyone who disagrees with Bush or the war in Iraq is un-patriotic and guilty of treason. Right, it's the "liberal bias" in the media, Republicans never have an agenda of their own, they always do the right things for the right reasons.

That's what I'm sick and tired of. I was lucky enough to have been born long after McCarthyism, but oh, look, I get to see it happen with my own eyes anyway. Oh, rapture. It happens everywhere I look...I feel like I can't even express my own opinion without being branded anti-American or a traitor or accused of "bashing and trashing" (never mind the fact that people who throw that accusation around do far more bashing and trashing than I ( ... )

janner August 25 2005, 02:45:34 UTC

I did not mean that liberal = pro-terrorists. I was referring to two separate types of webpages and she has been hailed a hero on both of them.

I'll answer more tomorrow... I have to get going right now.

It's not that she is against the war or Bush - it's how she is being portrayed and used by the media as the "voice of America" or the "voice of military families".

curious_sofa August 25 2005, 13:13:01 UTC

I did not mean that liberal = pro-terrorists. I was referring to two separate types of webpages and she has been hailed a hero on both of them.

And honestly, why is her being mentioned on a liberal web page bad? You mention the two in the same sentence, so it sounds like you equate the two. It really does sound like you're saying that liberal web pages (as such their views and opinions) are just as much crap and bullshit as pro-terrorist ones. :/

janner August 25 2005, 15:09:57 UTC

My apologies for that implication.. I certainly didn't mean to. My point about it being on liberal based webpages was that she is being used as their pawn. I have heard several of her interviews and it is very obvious that she is badly informed, has the wrong facts about things, and she's not the brightest crayon in the box - but yet the "liberals" are treating her like she some kind of mesiah. I think it's because (as you pointed out earlier) that it is somewhat of a political vodoo right now to speak out against the war (at least for politicians) too much and they are using her to be their megaphone.
She can speak out against the war all she wants - I don't care - we are all entitled to our own opinion - but the part that chaps my hide is when she and the media all claim that she speaks for all the military families.

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Re: Good point... crankybastard August 27 2005, 06:19:32 UTC

I don't want to keep getting into this, so I'll just leave it as it is here. Except to say that, I still think going into Iraq was not the right thing to do, and was done as much out of an "agenda" as anything Sheehan or others have done--but now we're stuck with it. That's what made me so angry about it in the first place--once we went in, there was no way out, and we can't just pack up and leave now that we're in. If we keep at it, hundreds or even thousands more of our soldiers will be killed, and it'll keep going on for years to come...but if we did back down, then we'd be letting the terrorists drive us away, and that would encourage them to attack us again.

It just seems like a lose/lose situation. I'm not looking forward to hearing about more of our troops being killed every day for the next ten years.

Honestly...it's the politicians who decide to go to war...so maybe they should be out there in the middle of it, themselves. But I guess that's too idealistic ( ... )

Re: Good point... sevariusjr August 27 2005, 19:24:47 UTC

I hope that what I wrote didn't upset you, and I don't think that I did. But you have absolutely made my point, better than I ever could - an American CAN be critical of the war, and angry as hell about it, BUT at the same time understand that leaving Iraq now would be catastrophic, for the Iraqis if not also for us. No one should view anyone who feels that way as anti-American ( ... )

Re: Good point... janner August 27 2005, 21:21:55 UTC

*points to SJ* Yeah, that's what I wanted to say *nods* He does a better job at it than I do... maybe that's why he's the lawyer and I'm the jail administrator ;)