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alethialia December 20 2014, 07:30:11 UTC
It's a nice little setup to show how youthful mistakes, now matter how innocent or well-meaning, can haunt you for the rest of your life, which isn't something we see a lot on television? Real consequences that never go away.

That's a great point. The show often brings up the notion of consequences, which is wonderful just in general, but this is so true of long-lasting effects. The flashbacks also showed me the emotional debt Raven owed Finn...which made me wonder if she was with him out of love or obligation, honestly.

But I do not want Bellamy/Raven in any way. I didn't read that as shippery at all at the end. Honestly, given that agony, anyone standing there would have done the exact same thing.

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jaq_of_spades December 21 2014, 05:53:48 UTC
I definitely think there was a big dose of obligation in there, which is always a dangerous thing in a relationship. Re Bellamy and Raven - I don't really ship it per se, because their sex scene together seemed almost emotionless? Not even friendly? Will be interesting to see where they take us next year, because it's not really a show I can point at and say "this will happen next" anymore.

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monroe_militia December 20 2014, 22:21:45 UTC
I definitely agree with all of this. And I think you're 100% right about it being like Buffy and Angel, but with not as romantic feelings.
And, while I'd rather have Bellamy and Raven as a brotp than as an actual pairing (I do ship them, but as more of a background ship), I could definitely get on board with them being together. But, if they were going to explore that relationship, then I definitely don't want it to be based off of Finn's death. That just seems artificial to me and cheap to the character. I think it's one thing if their friendship becomes closer after her pain, but not for it to immediately develop into a relationship. So, I think that, if something were to develop, I would rather have it be a slow burn than have him become the rock that she clings to and her loving him solely for that. (Plus Raven Reyes is a certified badass and, even if she is in a lot of pain right now, i don't think that she needs anyone else to take care of her. She might need support, but not someone to cling to)

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jaq_of_spades December 21 2014, 05:57:08 UTC
Absolutely, re Raven as a badass. I'm not sure she will LET anyone support her, after the immediate shock. I'm really concerned about how she and Clarke will interact in the next few eps, because the two of them at loggerheads could be one outcome of that. And I suspect I ship Clarke and Raven more than I do Raven and anyone else. (Though, WICK. And Clarke and Bellamy.) Sigh. My multiship tendencies do like to torture me.

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monroe_militia December 22 2014, 03:16:23 UTC
I definitely do too much multishipping too. Sometimes it's a pain, but a lot of the time it's also a bonus. It's always nice when you can still enjoy a pairing that isn't a primary pairing for a certain character.

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