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[jblade8]

Right, so, an issue was brought up with me today that concerns me. Cutting. I've been getting sick and fucking tired of people who for some reason think that cutting helps anything anywhere. I hate it so god damn much. What do you think you're accomplishing? What? Oh a physical manifestation helps me blah blah blah. It's bullshit. You plan

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[yuki_ishida]

its not only physical but psychological. Its almost like punishing yourself or trying to take the pain you have inside and making it physical, because phsyical pain snaps you out of curtain things. Why do you think a dog bites your leg when your passing out in the cold, your mind is on dying of cold, the pain snaps you out of it. You can look at it this way. Physical pain can be taken away, pain from inside can't.

[jblade8]

don't care. I will see no other side on this. Cutting is bad. If you have a problem that you can't stop thinking about deal with the problem. Find a solution or seek professional help. There is no middle ground. Continually hurting yourself and your friends and perpetuating this idiotic idea that exists completely counter to the idea of becoming better is in no way helpful to anyone. If you can't learn and grow and overcome your problem, don't go and make yourself worse because of it.

[yuki_ishida]

In my experiance Professionals Suck. I have never cut before, but still they SUCK when it comes to evaluations...

[jblade8]

You judge all by the actions of one. Simply because you did not recieve the results you expected does not mean that all professionals are bad. Perhaps your expectations were too high. Perhaps you misunderstood what was going on. Or maybe they did suck and you happened to get one bad person. That's no reason to tell other people to not go to someone who really can help. In the end, cutting oneself is not a better solution.

[orotaku]

I understand your point of view but when you have a psychological thing going on where you think it's helping, it's hard to break that cycle. It's like being sick or even an addiction. I'm not trying to justify people who cut themselves but if you don't understand, much less if you can't keep your temper about the situation, then you can't truly help them and in the end, may only drive them further away.

I also know people who've cut themselves and some may even still do, but if you blow up about it without thinking about every possible aspect of the situation, then you may hurt them just as much as that little blade can.

[zimdanen]

You didn't justify cutting; you said that it is a hard cycle to break. Last I checked, something being difficult to stop doesn't make it a good idea.

[orotaku]

True. Have to run to class though so no reply from me.

[jblade8]

Well, were I to try to get someone to stop, I don't suppose I'd approach them the same way I blew off steam here. But I understand the whole 'addictive' reasoning. That doesn't make it right. Just because you want to continue doesn't mean you should. I suppose it occurs to me that if they don't cut to begin with, they won't become addicted, will they? And while I don't want to hurt anyone, if that's what needs to be done to get someone to stop hurting themself I think it's worth it. If it is an addiction, it's not the kind of thing that's going to be solved by sitting around and not doing something. But if you know the right way to stop someone from hurting themself like that, please, tell me. I guess I just wonder how other people can be so calm about it. It's not good. It's never good. If there is something which causes someone to take such an action as to hurt themselves, steps need to be taken to solve it.

[starlightpiper]

Hey now, let's not discriminate. All cutting isn't bad. I mean, everyone knows that I've cut before, and I'll cut again. How else are those steaks gonna get cut?

(Yes, I honestly and truthfully had to make light of a serious topic.)

[ashnod]

I don't really see the advantage... my roommate has this gigantic nasty looking x scar on his arm that now anyone he's around when he has short sleeves on can see and question. I would hate myself more for that.

[jblade8]

I dislike it. I think it helps nothing at all, and will only lead to problems later.

[a_darker_shade]

Yeah, it's stupid. Yeah, people who try to justify it as "The pain outside helps me deal with the pain inside!" piss me off.

However, I could go into the biopsychological aspects of the actual addiction, but since (a) you obviously don't care enough to entertain another point of view, and (b) I don't feel like talking about the reward pathways and the limbic system, I won't.

Suffice it to say, though, that it's a stupid thing to do but can become an addiction - and not everyone has the same reasons. Other reasons, though also arguably idiotic, can be anything from artistic to meditative.

Still, you refuse to hear anyone else's side, so I'll stop wasting my time. And that's fine, I don't care how you feel on the issue. I think it's a horrible way to try to "solve" problems, too.

[jblade8]

Yay passive aggression