Patriot Screentime Minutes, and Deep Thoughts

Nov 21, 2010 13:38


I'm going to allow Mr Mark Wahlberg to express my reaction to this episode


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asha14 November 21 2010, 19:16:34 UTC
Standing O! funny as hell, Your best review yet. I have nothing to add because I agree with all of what you said about this episode. What I liked was Lois/Tess and Lois getting her reporter on. I am looking forward to Luthor for Clark and Lionel only...dis gon be guud

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jeannev November 21 2010, 20:43:18 UTC
I'm glad you enjoyed it. I wasn't even trying to be funny, LOL

I'm looking forward to Clark and Lionel too. My feelings are so mixed about the upcoming ep.

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jlvsclrk November 21 2010, 19:23:18 UTC
That scene with the prison blowing up reminded me of Doomsday. When will the writers realize its not the thing blowing up that's of interest but how Clark gets out of the pickle he's been put in. Ugh.

And I think we've seen the demands on Tom's time finally reach the breaking time - with all his other responsibilities, he obviously didn't have all the time needed to prep this and think through the FX and work with the editor to tighten up timing.

Still, although the episode had me rolling my eyes a lot, it didn't leave me in the fury that Supergirl did. As you say, they seem to have righted the excess of that episode that made Lois so pure and Clark so susceptible. And I kind of enjoyed Hogan's performance as Slade, perhaps because of the echo with Colonel Tye from BSG.

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jeannev November 21 2010, 20:45:49 UTC
When will the writers realize its not the thing blowing up that's of interest but how Clark gets out of the pickle he's been put in. Ugh.

Yes! This! Exactly! Whats the point of putting Clark in peril if you don't show how he gets out of it?

And like you, I also think Tom wearing many hats is becoming evident. And I say this as someone who loves him dearly. This episode was just messy. There's more then one episode this season where he just seems a bit distracted. And I've noticed that other characters seems to have all this dialogue, and Clark has so little. Could that also be an indicator?

But, you're right, Supergirl was the gold standard of suck this season. Maybe any season.

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dm_wyatt November 21 2010, 19:29:49 UTC
The love for this episode over in the very testosterone filled forums on Superherohype have me scratching my head... there were so many idiotic moments.

Tom did a great job directing the episode, but everyone was so passive and the chick swimming while her man was on a dangerous secret mission made no sense. It was almost like they had this girl with a beautiful body and they wanted to make sure she showed as much skin as possible.

She was pretty, I guess, but I there was zero chemistry between her and whathisname playing Arthur.

Usually, I think Tom makes the episode he directs better than they probably were on paper, but not this time.

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jeannev November 21 2010, 20:47:54 UTC
I don't know, maybe it was all the superhero talk, and the "team" stuff? Or, maybe it was Mera's push-up bra's? Even at the end of the episode, she's got a bare midriff, and a see-through shirt. Why? Not to mention its November in Kansas. Why is everyone walking around in t-shirts and tanktops?

I wish Tom had gotten a better script to work with.

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dm_wyatt November 22 2010, 00:18:02 UTC
It was fatally flawed in several significant ways... From such a strong season so far, it's a frustrating failure.

Any other season it probably would be right in the middle of the pack, but given the strength of the season so far, it's probably the worst script so far.

It was a beautifully shot episode, so Tom probably did the best he could. But I agree: the script stunk.

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jeannev November 21 2010, 20:52:47 UTC
See, I think I've gotten to the point with SV where I want the lessons TO STOP! Everything is a damned lesson for Clark to learn. Everything needs to be spelled out to him, in either word or deed, by someone else. I hate that sort of writing for him. I know that, sometimes, they let someone learn a lesson from Clark too, as they did in this episode. But it doesn't seem to be done in equal measures.

I do not understand Clark, he does not want to fight it because he wants people to trust in the Superheores, but which people, the only people he rescues are Oliver, Tess, Lois and any other guest star, unfortunately Smallville has not created what was in the Superman series, the common people being rescued, even if they don't have nothing to do with him. Sadly in the series is more a mere mention of things that happened offscreen.OMG, Totally! One of my biggest pet peeves with this season is that Clark out there, saving the random people as The Blur has been all but non-existant. And its such an important piece of Clark's puzzle. ( ... )

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dawnybee November 21 2010, 20:36:57 UTC
I agree with you, Marky Mark. Although "Patriot" isn't as bad as "The Happening".

Clark and Arthur,(while anvils clang onto our heads, and we can practially see the flashing neon signs on the background saying "OMG, SEE CLARK! LOIS MAKES YOU SO MUCH BETTER AND YOU ARE LESS WITHOUT HER BECAUSE AC SAYS THAT ABOUT MERA!!)

Of course, because where would Clark be without seeing using everyone else's life as an example. That's the way they validate everything Clark does, by having someone else state their position or act a certain way before he does.

And as she's known Clark for 5 minutes, and Lois, 30 seconds, who launches into this kind of conversation?

That's the big problem I had about it. All of these characters with insta-insight on complete and utter strangers. And the way Mera went on about Lois not being equal, it would've made more sense for her to not even give her the time a day considering her *husband had just been captured*!

In fact, cut all that shit out, and I think you have a far better episode. I'm not ( ... )

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jeannev November 21 2010, 20:57:23 UTC
Nothing is as bad as "The Happening".

Of course, because where would Clark be without seeing using everyone else's life as an example. That's the way they validate everything Clark does, by having someone else state their position or act a certain way before he does.

Yes! This! I think I was more forgiving of it earlier on in Clark's journey. But its the 10th and final season. Why are we still doing this shit?

You know what would've been more interesting? If Mera didn't change her opinion about Lois, and she continued to hold onto the idea that these superpowered heroes should be with their own kind. Because, ya know, why does everyone have to come around? Why can't characters maintian a radically opposed POV from each other?

I think one of my issues with Michael Hogan was that he sort of reminds me of Michael Ironside. So, he was like nastier General Sam Lane.

I keep forgetting that this show doesn't care about making sense *faceplam*

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