Agents of SHIELD random thought
Hey guys, I’m going to post my last few AoS reactions in a bit, but this is just a wild bit of theory for the same show.
I came across someone the other day who said that according to the producers this season would not end satisfyingly. I don’t know if I had heard this before, but if I did it was a while ago and I didn’t have anything in the season to try and connect it to. So it was probably news to me, and even if it wasn’t it functionally is, and it gave me an idea.
While this would be a stretch, and requires ignoring and fudging some prior established pieces of the series, but what if this season ends with the Snap? It’s been confusing all season why we haven’t heard anything about so many people disappearing and the subsequent deaths, not on Earth or anywhere the Space team went; the Chronocoms don’t bring it up, the only major death events have been caused by Izel and/or Sarge’s crew. SHIELD doesn’t mention trying to so some good in a world struck by tragedy, or rebuilding after everyone has been restored; the entire main cast is still there and don’t mention anyone they lost, or the Space crew saying that it might not even be worth looking for Fitz since his odds are at best 50/50 and that doesn’t account for anything else that could have happened to him in the aftermath. Do you really think Deke wouldn’t mention something like that?
I can’t say I’m really sold on this idea, even though it’s mine. Up until now I had never considered this could happen before the Snap because that was definitely not what was set up last season. They actually went to a fair amount of trouble to work in a few reference to IW in the last few episodes of the season, they just (somehow) hadn’t reached the Snap yet. But as I noted a few episodes ago, they keep retroactively sticking more and more things into the fairly narrow time they had left to work with before the Snap hit. Maybe they’ve stuck a whole extra year in there.
Even if we take out those references, it would be iffy to fit an extra year into the timeframe we have. The timeline of AoS has been hinky for a while, and I feel like it wouldn’t be too hard to fudge an extra six to eight months or so, but a whole year plus seems a bit much. Prior to ‘things happening in New York’ the last movie level event that impacted AoS was Civil War; s4 is said to take place several months later, even though it unfolds over only a couple months; and then Fitz was in jail for a least six months (if I recall correctly) then hung around the Lighthouse for a while before taking off with Enoch, and the group’s return was sometime after that. So while the team’s personal timelines were out of sync with the number of years that passed, it was perfectly reasonable to assume that they were in the world parallel to the events of IW; and since we saw evidence of that, it all fit.
And even if this is the way it goes *and* I let the writers have this one, it won’t take away most of my other complaints about this season. I like this season, but these writers are bad with sci-fi and Space elements, and the timeline is far too compressed for the amount of material they needed to cover so character progression doesn’t feel natural most of the time. The idea that it’s all an illusion covers more of that, but that seems neither likely nor satisfying at this point.
Also there’s the fact that, near as I can tell, we don’t have a name for ep 13, and this late in the game means they’re keeping it secret. For a while I’ve been assuming it had to do with Coulson, because we’d be getting him back; and that could still be true, it’s still what I’m hoping. But it could also be something like ‘Dust to Dust’ or ‘Decimation’ or something that would give away the ending way too early. Or it could be a reference to Dallas, and May wakes up in Tahiti to find Phil in the shower.
Still, it’s interesting to think about; not that I have any shortage of ideas about AoS.
I came across someone the other day who said that according to the producers this season would not end satisfyingly. I don’t know if I had heard this before, but if I did it was a while ago and I didn’t have anything in the season to try and connect it to. So it was probably news to me, and even if it wasn’t it functionally is, and it gave me an idea.
While this would be a stretch, and requires ignoring and fudging some prior established pieces of the series, but what if this season ends with the Snap? It’s been confusing all season why we haven’t heard anything about so many people disappearing and the subsequent deaths, not on Earth or anywhere the Space team went; the Chronocoms don’t bring it up, the only major death events have been caused by Izel and/or Sarge’s crew. SHIELD doesn’t mention trying to so some good in a world struck by tragedy, or rebuilding after everyone has been restored; the entire main cast is still there and don’t mention anyone they lost, or the Space crew saying that it might not even be worth looking for Fitz since his odds are at best 50/50 and that doesn’t account for anything else that could have happened to him in the aftermath. Do you really think Deke wouldn’t mention something like that?
I can’t say I’m really sold on this idea, even though it’s mine. Up until now I had never considered this could happen before the Snap because that was definitely not what was set up last season. They actually went to a fair amount of trouble to work in a few reference to IW in the last few episodes of the season, they just (somehow) hadn’t reached the Snap yet. But as I noted a few episodes ago, they keep retroactively sticking more and more things into the fairly narrow time they had left to work with before the Snap hit. Maybe they’ve stuck a whole extra year in there.
Even if we take out those references, it would be iffy to fit an extra year into the timeframe we have. The timeline of AoS has been hinky for a while, and I feel like it wouldn’t be too hard to fudge an extra six to eight months or so, but a whole year plus seems a bit much. Prior to ‘things happening in New York’ the last movie level event that impacted AoS was Civil War; s4 is said to take place several months later, even though it unfolds over only a couple months; and then Fitz was in jail for a least six months (if I recall correctly) then hung around the Lighthouse for a while before taking off with Enoch, and the group’s return was sometime after that. So while the team’s personal timelines were out of sync with the number of years that passed, it was perfectly reasonable to assume that they were in the world parallel to the events of IW; and since we saw evidence of that, it all fit.
And even if this is the way it goes *and* I let the writers have this one, it won’t take away most of my other complaints about this season. I like this season, but these writers are bad with sci-fi and Space elements, and the timeline is far too compressed for the amount of material they needed to cover so character progression doesn’t feel natural most of the time. The idea that it’s all an illusion covers more of that, but that seems neither likely nor satisfying at this point.
Also there’s the fact that, near as I can tell, we don’t have a name for ep 13, and this late in the game means they’re keeping it secret. For a while I’ve been assuming it had to do with Coulson, because we’d be getting him back; and that could still be true, it’s still what I’m hoping. But it could also be something like ‘Dust to Dust’ or ‘Decimation’ or something that would give away the ending way too early. Or it could be a reference to Dallas, and May wakes up in Tahiti to find Phil in the shower.
Still, it’s interesting to think about; not that I have any shortage of ideas about AoS.