I need a word, please.

Sep 10, 2006 01:40

When do we want to lose something ( Read more... )

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vgnwtch September 10 2006, 10:13:00 UTC
I prefer to think of "coming into balance", "acheiving health and fitness", and "growing into myself".

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vgnwtch September 10 2006, 10:13:24 UTC
Or, "my body finding the place where it's happy".

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jeneralist September 10 2006, 15:37:04 UTC
Cool!

I'd like to also find something of the "(verbing) some weight" or "(blanking) some pounds" form.

Doctor-speak is full of phrases that put the emphasis in the wrong place. For example, if I give someone some medication for a particular condition, and it doesn't help them, the standard phrase is "patient failed a trial of drug X." Me, I think that drug X failed the patient....

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vgnwtch September 10 2006, 16:16:45 UTC
How about "shape shifting"?

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persipone September 10 2006, 13:57:40 UTC
I'm a big fan of "conditioning" and "fitness." After all, weight isn't the problem- bodybuilders are real, if rare. The problem's fat. And since just "loosing" things from your diet often doesn't work- you've got to add exercise- I think an overall focus on fitness rather than weight would be a lot healthier.

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jeneralist September 10 2006, 15:47:54 UTC
But there are many times when decreasing weight, rather than increasing cardiovascular capacity, is needed. If someone comes into my office weighing 300 pounds, and they've got knee pain, reducing the load on their knees is going to be a big part of helping them. I'm not specifying which part of the calories in/calories out, diet & exercise, to focus on (at least, not in the 1st sentence).

If I just say something like, "I think your knees would begin to feel better if they didn't have so much strain on them," some patients would think that I'm recommending that they stay in the reclining chair watching TV. I need to be more specific: "I think your knees would begin to feel better if they didn't have so much strain on them. If you could lose twenty pounds, that would make a big difference in how you feel." And then I'd talk about steps to take.

But I don't like saying "lose." It's a very negative word -- and unless I give them a different one, it's the one my patients will be saying to themselves in their internal dialog.

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vgnwtch September 10 2006, 16:18:54 UTC
"I think your knee is under too much strain. The best thing you can do right now is to tell me about how active your lifestyle is and about your diet so we can find how best to get you to a place where your body is supporting itself rather than causing itself stress."?

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persipone September 10 2006, 16:23:29 UTC
I can see that end of the problem, and I guess it wasn't what I was thinking about. But, in some ways, my brain breaks this example down into two seaparate but connected issues. There are thin patients with knee pain who *do* have to be more sedentary to reduce the load- elderly individuals with severe arthritis, for instance. And being 300 lbs is a big problem even if a person's knees are ok.

I think your idea of "shed a few pounds" is a good one. Even something like referring to "loosing fat" rather than "loosing weight" would be good. I'm thinking of elderly patients again, now- I've seen some who are *delighted* to loose weight, but don't seem to connect it with the fact that they're getting weaker because of muscle atrophy.

I'd probably want to go with something like: "I think your knees would improve if they didn't have so much strain on them. If you could get in a bit better shape, that would make a big difference." Which, yes, in some sense avoids the core issue of loosing weight. I'm not sure there's a great

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onyxtwilight September 10 2006, 16:01:41 UTC
Discard, drop, jettison, slough, eliminate, purge?

I don't know that there's a way to say "lose weight" without using a negative word, if you're committed to referring to the extra weight itself -- which, in fact, has to be let go, cast aside, melted away.

Re-gain a healthy weight, perhaps.

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vgnwtch September 10 2006, 16:19:48 UTC
I like re-gaining health.

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jeneralist September 10 2006, 17:20:11 UTC
Exactly. It needs to be actively cast aside, instead of passively lost. I mean, when else in life do you *try* to lose something? "Hmm, I'll leave my car keys here, under the comforter in the spare bedroom, and then I'll distract myself, and in the morning I'll have forgotten where I put them." There are times someone actively gets rid of something they don't want -- "lose" isn't the right word for something someone tries to do.

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onyxtwilight September 10 2006, 17:23:37 UTC
Well, for the record, "shed" and "drop" seem the most natural to me, conversation-wise. "You need to shed some weight."

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tigira September 10 2006, 20:06:57 UTC
I like this idea. I wish I could think of some more. Perhaps:

Leave behind the superfluous weight?

or "Throw away the extra wait," perhaps "Discard the extra weight."

I would want something that also implies not picking it up again.

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Set yourself free... squishydish September 19 2006, 20:26:01 UTC
Howsabout:
You need to FREE yourself of about 20 pounds?

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