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christhegeek January 20 2011, 04:37:36 UTC
The dutch really have done so much to change the world and get very little recognition for it. My gay boyfriend Simon Schama talks about it in one of his books, too. I may have to read this

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jennifleur January 20 2011, 04:46:06 UTC
Oh shoot - that looks like a brilliant book to read right before reading the one I just finished! I'm sure it would've given great insight and dovetailed nicely with the The Island. Okay, it's on my wish list now. ^^

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bojojoti January 22 2011, 00:08:33 UTC
As a descendant of the Pilgrims, I'd like to point out it was the Puritans who were the uptight prudes. Puritans wore somber colors; Pilgrims wore green, burgundy, blue, purple, and red. Pilgrims settled Plymouth; Puritans settled Massachusetts Bay. Pilgrims were working class; Puritans were upper class. The Puritans thought they were superior to everyone, including the Indians (whom they beat and stole from) and the Pilgrims; the Pilgrims were humble and lived in harmony with the Indians and treated the Puritans with brotherly love even when they were insufferable. The Puritans had the Salem witch trials; the Pilgrims practiced tolerance as evidenced in the Mayflower Compact.

Those darn Puritans! They've given my poor Pilgrims a bad, bad name.

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bojojoti January 22 2011, 00:59:47 UTC
And, umm, Pilgrims can be cranky when mistaken for Puritans!

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jennifleur January 22 2011, 01:07:07 UTC
pil·grim noun \ˈpil-grəm\
Definition of PILGRIM

capitalized : one of the English colonists settling at Plymouth in 1620

pu·ri·tan noun \ˈpyu̇r-ə-tən\
Definition of PURITAN

capitalized : a member of a 16th and 17th century Protestant group in England and New England opposing as unscriptural the ceremonial worship and the prelacy of the Church of England

It's because the terms are in someways interchangeable, Puritan being a subset of Pilgram. I was referring to the English Pilgrims settling in Mass with more puritan values. I assumed that could be understood from the context of the sentence.

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