Support fan-funded efforts at more Firefly... not in this case, NO.

Mar 07, 2011 19:54

Some of you may have heard about a recent effort to re-boot Joss Whedon's Firefly via crowdfunding (aka fan-funding). It started out as an innocent tweet by Nathan Fillion (saying that if he won the lottery, he'd buy the rights to Firefly) and has snowballed into one of the scariest things I've seen in recent fandom (and considering I'm a regular ( Read more... )

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azarsuerte March 7 2011, 09:12:52 UTC
Hear, hear. IMO, the only thing this campaign is likely to accomplish is to maybe make Nathan Fillion more wary of using hyperbole in the future. :-\

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petit_rhino March 7 2011, 14:41:39 UTC
Wow. I'd seen Nathan's tweet and seen the pledge thing, I had no idea it had escalated to this point.
Maybe I'm naive, but I had seen the money pledges as a representation of how much we love Firefly. It's all a nice idea, a fantasy really, when you consider the facts. Denial starts to get unhealthy at this point.

Oh, and yeah, no Joss, WTF?!

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tsvoff March 7 2011, 19:06:26 UTC
>current plan proposes the production of Firefly stories without the involvement of Joss

I can't find where hnbf says so. Please help me.

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jenskijen March 7 2011, 19:34:29 UTC
Since reading the (vast number) of responses from what appears to be someone on the HNBF team, I've since modified this to:

Secondly, this current plan proposes the production of Firefly stories potentially without the involvement of Joss (depending on whether you’re reading the website or Facebook, you get two very different stories on this - site says nothing without Joss, Facebook are talking about something entirely different). This is a no-brainer in my opinion - there is no Firefly without Joss.

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tsvoff March 7 2011, 19:59:32 UTC
I saw it, but still can't find something like that on HNBF's Facebook page. I use to use LJ, Facebook is terra incognita for me, so Could you send me link please?
Thank you.

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jenskijen March 7 2011, 20:09:00 UTC
I wish it were so easy. I don't have full access to the FB stuff (as you have to "like" the page to do so, and I don't want to add myself to the number). But if you read through the (hundreds of) comments on the website, you'll find responses by Mondiaz who sometimes says "Whedon will be in full creative control" then "If we manage to secure the rights we will approach Whedon before the deal is finalized. If Whedon turns down the project we will not close the deal with FOX and the company will dissolve." followed by "This project is entirely focused on enabling Joss Whedon to producing more REAL Firefly. We do not have a second objective regarding funding anything else." which is then (oddly) changed to "Firefly is the objective! If it proves fundamentally impossible to produce more Firefly investors will have a choice to back out. There is no reason to dissolve the structure of the organization and it’s possible those who chose can continue along other roads." (which I read as "we'll use your money for other stuff")

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pseudohistorian March 7 2011, 19:59:17 UTC
I'm often surprised/saddened by how many Browncoats don't seem to realise that there is no prospect of new live-action productions related to this franchise at any point in the near future.

Despite the charitable work coming out of it, I even felt that the response level to recent fan film efforts was somewhat excessive.

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meoinya March 8 2011, 04:03:32 UTC
I hadn't read anything about not involving Joss but I've only read very little about this. I wrote to them and never heard back but part of my message pleaded with them to consult an entertainment attorney.

It's amazing to me (as someone who does work in the entertainment industry and could probably staff a good part of the below the line folks needed for a production) how many fans *think* they know something about acquiring licensing rights and staffing/contract negotiation for a production and how competent they could potentially sound to the throngs that don't know any better.

Good post.

Do you know the folks behind this? It concerns me that they're now going to take money and STILL be anonymous.

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