Living smaller?

Aug 09, 2010 11:42

My friend willshetterly posted this NY Times article on his blog the other day:

Consumers Find Ways to Spend Less and Find Happiness - NYTimes.comI confess to having mixed feelings when I read articles like this about giving up possessions, living in a smaller house, etc. I would love to be able to live in a Zen-like wee cottage, and I often feel like a ( Read more... )

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r_wolfcastle August 9 2010, 18:38:58 UTC
I find all of your logic and thinking to be sound and, while not the utterly selfless to which you seem to aspire, certainly selfless enough. From where I sit here in my childless 2000-square-foot air-conditioned swimming-pool-equipped completely uninsulated house, you're a saint.

I will note by way of input that without an insulated garage, you cannot realistically have an electric car in Vermont. Not unless they make battery heaters similar to the engine block heaters necessary in climes like Minnesota and Alaska.

Good luck with the house!

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jikme August 9 2010, 20:15:15 UTC
Interesting point about the garage. When we eventually build a garage I'll make sure we keep that in mind.

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jikme August 9 2010, 20:50:39 UTC
And hey, at least you have two Labradors and not, say, two Papillons.

BTW, we're following your lead and planning to install an induction cooktop. Our energy consultant suggested it to us, since it requires less ventilation (and, hence, heat loss) than a gas range would. When the time comes, I'll be asking you where to order pots and pans from, since our nuptial All-Clad won't work.

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r_wolfcastle August 9 2010, 21:30:24 UTC
I'm not sure on pots and pans anymore. I think "induction-ready" is a wildly-variable adjective. I discovered this recently. I recently bought an "induction-ready" paella pan. And I can heat it on my standalone induction burner. But after ~4 minutes it was only up to 300F in the center. Contrast that with my large cast iron pan that in 1 minute gets to 500F in the center ( ... )

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jikme August 9 2010, 20:14:07 UTC
Yeah, this fits with my thinking. It's basically, "Yeah, your house is too big, but at least you're doing it right."

I did the math just now and determined the interior square footage will be 2,400 sf, which still comes out to five inhabitants according to your metric. In our case, I think four people at a time will be a more common scenario than five.

But... if energy supplies continue to dwindle and poorly-insulated houses become unusable, at least we'll have built a nice roomy house for our socialist overlords to subdivide!

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tsennyipa August 10 2010, 04:00:29 UTC
Entitled?

That's just such a weird way of looking at it. Suppose we had nothing but socialized housing, and everyone got 450 square feet. Is the guy who's running a meth lab in his kitchen "entitled" to it? Even though he's destroying the place? I don't think "entitled" computes. And what happens when the world population doubles? Are zpgers entitled to double the space if they don't reproduce? I just don't see any way to be "fair."

Anyway, this house will have the energy footprint of a normal 800sf house, worst case, so we're comfortably under your limit if we go by energy consumption. But we're spending money most people don't think they can afford to achieve that.

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mtnvwpilot August 9 2010, 19:28:55 UTC
It sounds like you're not building a house just for you and Ted, you're building a community center. And that's very cool. And it entitles you to some slack, when it comes to the "how much is enough (for me)?" question. You're being unfair to yourself by comparing what you're building to a McMansion; it's very different in both form and function.

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jikme August 9 2010, 20:35:39 UTC
Well, it's a little far from the center of town to qualify as a community center, but it's a bikeable distance if you're not afraid of hills. Oh, and it's 1.8 miles from the farmers market (again with the hills, though).

Thanks for reassuring me it's not the same as a McMansion (or "shackteau", as I once heard them called) :-)

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mtnvwpilot August 9 2010, 19:31:07 UTC
And, by the way, I'm deeply envious... I'd love to build something like that (though I'd build ours somewhere that doesn't have snow! ;-) ), but it's just not in the cards for us for at least another few years, until the kids are both in college. Then we'll see; for now, it's just dreaming of getting out of the Bay Area rat race.

Congratulations on your escape!

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