in turkey.

May 01, 2007 15:53

the stock market in Turkey almost crashed yesterday. the people with a lot of money predict a revoltion. and so do the other 2 million people who have been protesting around the country for the past week. and when i say 2 million, i don't mean combined. i mean on sunday, in taksim (my second home), there were 2 million people yelling for a ( Read more... )

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wyvrne May 1 2007, 14:44:18 UTC
Damn, man. Jen B, be safe.

I have been doin' my part, going to rallies, doin' the protest thang... if America really does go to war with MORE nations, though, there will be even more protesting here... at least, I hope, dude. Goddamnit.

It's not even America... it's just our dumbass administration who's like "WEEE WARS!!! LOLS~!!" And then people who don't see that half the things Bush has done are impeachable crimes.

To summarize, booger, and I didn't do it, and fuck the Bush administration.

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drumrollz May 3 2007, 06:45:39 UTC
Don't be silly and call this another Bush act. This is typical of us. Especially the CIA. We instill the governments that we want, and we put a lot of cash into it. And we've been doing that ever since we became a superpower after the second world war.

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the_walls_speak May 1 2007, 16:07:24 UTC
Man. The United States really does need to mind its own business

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teamleader May 1 2007, 16:12:21 UTC
And this is why I say I must take over the world...it needs me!

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spiritualstoner May 1 2007, 16:56:01 UTC
do you mean giving greater autonomy to the kurdish region of iraq or the US actually looking for a way to create a kurdistan?

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frank_grimes May 1 2007, 17:19:52 UTC
That's what I was wondering...considering the Kurds are already more or less autonomous. Unless these are different Kurds? I guess I don't understand the situation enough.

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frank_grimes May 1 2007, 17:32:37 UTC
Do'h. Ok, I wikipedia'd it.

Apparently, the Kurds had wanted independence from Turkey since it was called the Ottoman Empire, but were repeatedly overlooked in treaties and in Turkish parliament. Their ethnic identity was "harshly suppressed" for years. Between 1984 and 1999, there was an open war between the Turkish government and the PKK, which is considered a terrorist group by the US and the EU. The PKK committed atrocities against Kurdish clans beyond its control.

So it's a complicated issue, obviously.

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spiritualstoner May 2 2007, 00:55:18 UTC
it is extremely complicated. the kurds are not only found in turkey, they are also found in iraq and iran. They have been suppressed by all three countries for years. they are the equivalent of palestinians but in three different countries. the problem is that it is politically impossible to create a "kurdistan" because it would need land from all three countries which are already ethnically diverse. this would set a precedent for other ethnicities within those countries to try to secede and get their own little piece of land. not only that, the area that would entail a "kurdistan" is rich in natural resources and would be a certain loss to all three countries. part of the reason that turkey is freaking out about iraqi kurds getting autonomy is that they would probably support kurdish separatist groups in turkey by giving them safe haven and other things like syria did with hezbolla ( ... )

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blueskysunday May 1 2007, 19:44:01 UTC
I'm not raising my hands. Well, actually I am, but only in protest.

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