The rational argument you are looking for is the argument from nature - though rarely do people agree on what is "natural" and what is not
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Re: just for arguments sakejmiller77December 17 2005, 21:43:32 UTC
Oh I am sure she will take none...I am simply trying to give a POV that isn't the usual christian one-sided view...I have never heard of an animal eating a diseased or a disfigured youngling...I have heard of them eating them because it is their nature...I never claimed to be able to think how homosexuals and I do not believe that mutual masturbation between a man and a woman is perversion simply because it is still that sexual attraction between a male and a female...the natural way...this is not an argument on my point...this is simply my point of view...
Re: just for arguments sakeblinkerkelzDecember 18 2005, 02:07:24 UTC
josh, you can't help who or what you have feelings for. i have an uncle who likes women but he felt like a woman himself so he had a sex change and is now considered a lesbian. he's an amazing person are you going to judge him based on that? if so you're not the cool kid i thought you were. i was born knowing him as my uncle and now i know him as my aunt and still love him. it may be confusing for outsiders to understand but imagine how hurt the family was that he didn't want to be someone we loved and thought we knew anymore? if we as the family have accepted him as being such and don't care why should the rest of the world? no one can help how the behave. if we could why would there be so many gays and lesbians? men like women and women like men why not assume there would be some who'd like the same sex? we all start out the same, society just tells us we should like the one we can reproduce with when in actuality you should really be with those you love.
Re: just for arguments sakejmiller77December 18 2005, 17:25:48 UTC
ONCE AGAIN....I DO NOT JUDGE GAY PEOPLE BASED ON THEIR SEXUAL PREFERENCE...I HAVE NEVER JUDGED A GAY PERSON BASED ON SEXUAL PREFERENCE...IF THEY ARE COOL THEN THEY'RE COOL...IF THEIR AN ASSHOLE THEN THEY'RE AN ASSHOLE...I SIMPLY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS "CORRECT" OR "RIGHT" BY ANY MEANS AND I WILL NOT EVER BELIEVE THAT...
okay guys...we need a translatordreamlifeaway05December 21 2005, 16:47:37 UTC
josh and i are engaged so i am pretty good at translating what he is trying to say...all he is saying is that he doesnt have anything against homosexuals...he just doesnt feel that it is right...he has plenty of homosexual friends and he enjoys being around them...its just he doesnt agree with their sexual prefrence...that is all he is saying...he is not trying to bash anyone...he is just trying to state that it may not be the most natural course in life...that is all...he likes some homosexual ppl...but if they are rude...like some ppl are...he isnt going to like them...he treats them the same no matter what...dont get offended...he did a purely scientic approach to this...give him a little credit...the whole reason this started is because he and i were talking about it...so dont read too much in between the lines...if he did like homosexuals because they were that way he would say it...and i would have been the first to comment on this thing...but he didnt...dont assume that you know exactly what he is saying till you ask...REMEMBER
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