On February 7, 2001, Liu Qi, Mayor of Beijing and also president of the Beijing Organizing Committee of the 2008 Olympic Games, was served with a lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in Northern California, for overseeing persecution against human rights and seriously trampling China and overseas Falun Gong practitioners' human rights. The suit charges Liu with "torture, cruel, inhumane, or degrading treatment, arbitrary detention, crimes against humanity, and interference with freedom of religion and belief." The Center for Justice and Accountability, an organization that represents victims of grave human rights abuse, filed the civil complaint with the U.S. District Court in San Francisco on February 7, 2001. The complaint was then served on Mr. Liu later that evening at the San Francisco International Airport before he boarded a flight to attend festivities at the 2002 Winter Olympic Games
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I'm not talking to you. You either don't understand my sentiments or you're not respecting them. There is an obvious ethnic bias to my perception. However, you've never travelled to China and don't have family there so I believe you're not in a position to call me out on that so the more you want to pick a fight on this the more you need to STFU.
So, since I've never travelled to China and I don't have family there, my pointing out the bullshit of the whole "One China" ideology is invalidated? Interesting concept. I'll keep that in mind the next time Japan reapplies for the UNSC.
I'm still amazed at why you, someone who's been engaged in minority rights issues, can't see the hypocrisy in advocating a "pass" on this issue for the Chinese govt.
boiling point....nha_hang_chayApril 10 2008, 17:10:59 UTC
i remember asking d. huang why he decided to focus on the tibetan community and their concerns, and your words around being a "witness to a celebration of memory, sorrow and hope..." totally applies to his photojournalism, as i understand it. when a people (& a core aspect of their identity) are on the verge of extinction in terms of religion, society and culture, many will do whatever is within their reach to preserve it
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Re: boiling point....jondisApril 10 2008, 21:32:58 UTC
China's system of hegemony in the western provinces (xinjiang, etc) is similar to that of America's hegemony of language, history and culture. It's a strange process to find these commonalities and to process it here.
I've been thinking about this too, partly framed by my local context - the 1988 Seoul Olympics and the craziness of the IOC 'awarding' (cuz that's what it is, a coming out party for the new girl at the capitalist ball and Asia gets one every 20 years or so) such an event to South Korea in 1981. Hello, 1980 Gwangju Massacre. And yet, South Koreans achieved significant democratization in 1987, thanks in part to the perception that the world was watching. I'm not sure how applicable such hopes are to any Chinese governmental response to protests, mostly because American pal-o-buddy-o-pal South Korea had been pretending to be a democracy since 1948
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man I feel like I've been bogged down by so much information I'd like to point to, plus information I don't know, I'm kinda frustrated by this entire debate. ...not to mention Jay discounting everything I try to say...
...Am I the only human being in America not on the Dalai Lama's jock?
...do people really think the Falun Gong is a serious relgious sect? Do they deserve the right to religious freedom? Sure just like Mormon's do I guess. Do people realize that most Chinese people don't trust people that are falun gong?
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The Chinese government, when it made its request to host the Olympics, pledged to improve its human rights record.
Its "improvements" have basically been either ineffective or unimplemented.
Maybe your "friends and allies" are on the opposite side of this issue because you're letting ethnic bias cloud your perception.
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I'm still amazed at why you, someone who's been engaged in minority rights issues, can't see the hypocrisy in advocating a "pass" on this issue for the Chinese govt.
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The direct violence is something that was characteristic of Apartheid and a jim crow south.
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...Am I the only human being in America not on the Dalai Lama's jock?
...do people really think the Falun Gong is a serious relgious sect? Do they deserve the right to religious freedom? Sure just like Mormon's do I guess. Do people realize that most Chinese people don't trust people that are falun gong?
too many thoughts.
cheers annie, thanks for your thoughts.
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