European Governments Undermining Themselves Over Muslim Immigration Issue

[jordan179]

All across Europe, Muslim immigrants are launching unprovoked attacks on Europeans, doing so in the belief that their religion gives them the right to abuse the Europeans at will.  The governments are not even trying to protect or avenge their own people.  These governments are, instead, cracking down hard on all attempts to resist or even protest

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[robby]

"Governments derive their legitimacy from the degree of consent of and to the degree that they protect the rights of the governed. A government which brings in hordes of abusers and then punishes those who resist the abusers is undermining its own legitimacy. "

You could argue that leftist dictatorships have become dominant in the west; powerful elites that manipulate the people with pervasive propaganda, pulling the puppet strings, so the power of the state serves their own purposes.

[skarman]

Western Europe has been a bastion of leftist/central politics for decades. The 'socialist' dream has been strong for a very long time, fed by the economic boom after WWII. Far be it from me to say it was wrong to build a nation with a strong social safety net, it went too far. Politicians and the leftists have never acknowledged the inherent fault in strong socialist teachings, dismissing any notion that it is nothing more than the first step to communism. We all know how well communism works. Just look at Cuba, North Korea, Cambodia, the Soviet Union and the various Warshaw Pact members

[skarman]

As a certain Roman emperor realised, to keep the power, you need to give the people bread and games. As more and more of the indigenous people had to work harder, mommy and daddy both working, to keep up with mortgage, car and tax payments, they would get disenfranchised. You need to replace those who start to question you, with those who will support you. Ergo, pull in more of the same type of people who can keep you in power by giving them stuff. In the last three elections, it became clear that, for instance, the PVDA (Worker's Party) had replaced a lot of their usual voters and members with Turkish and Moroccan voters and members, because they saw the PVDA as the party that would continue to give them whatever they want

[skarman]

All of this, leads to more and more people going for the Euro-sceptic and so-called 'right-wing' slash 'neo-nazi' party of the PVV. More and more of the traditional leftists/centrist voters defect to this party. Or in France, to Front National. To keep their seats, the traditional parties need new voters and so they go back to the old standby, the same group they've been funding aka the muslim contingent. What better way than import a massive number of them, just to bolster your chances to keep your seat? Promise them massive financial support and they will vote for you, like their brothers did in previous elections. Of course, the leadership doesn't say it like that. No, they use the same excuse they used back in 2007, for the General Pardon. Back then, they claimed all those 20,000 asylum seekers, who were about to be deported, consisted of doctors, engineers and other highly educated people, which we need because our population numbers are decreasing. Shortly after the current refugee crisis erupted, the leftist and centrist party

[skarman]

When someone says something, they're automatically branded as a 'neo-nazi'. Vilified and ridiculed. Europe does not have Freedom of Speech, but Freedom of Expression. And the only expression allowed, is the one that is decided by the leadership. Whose only goal is to stay in power, to craft a single Europe, under their power. If that means bending over backwards and selling out its citizens, so be it. THAT is why the events of New Year's Eve are such a powerful wakeup call. They tried to cover it up, but social media destroyed that illusion. And once that happened, the leadership compounded the problem by blaming the victims and telling them that should have a code of conduct, in flagrant opposition to the original feminist point that it is not a woman's fault if she's attacked, but solely the attacker. It unleashed a torrent of covered up events all across Europe, showing the results of unlimited immigration. It is threatening the elite's power grab. Just like the upcoming referendum about the Ukranian associate membership is

[avon_deer]

Left winger here. I'm afraid I have to agree with you 100% on this one. As much as it pains me to admit it; the situation as it is simply cannot go on. Our respective solutions to this problem might well differ, but I don't think it is remotely "unprogressive" of me to admit that we have a problem here. Even the Ramadhan Foundation is slowly changing its tune on matters pertaining to this kind of thing

[mosinging1986]

Moderate Muslims, and unlike you I DO believe they exist, (though whether or not they can be considered bona fide Muslims as a result of holding that position is another debate) really do need to be seen to make genuine efforts to root out extremism. Far more than they currently do, and probably far more than they will feel comfortable doing.

Moderate Muslims seem to be like Bigfoot or the Loch Ness Monster. Many people claim they exist, but solid evidence for them continues to be elusive.

I've been waiting for moderate Muslims to speak out against the oppression and outright barbarism of their more devout brethren for 14+ years. All I hear and see is gaping silence and a whole lot of nothing.

Mass rapes, slaughter of entire villages, kidnapping/sex slavery of young girls, so many beheadings that I have lost count, burning people in cages, the murder of even children - what further horrors could they POSSIBLY be waiting for, before they choose to speak out?!

[graywolf44]

"Quite aside from the direct threat posed by the Muslim immigrant invasion, the European governments are flirting with disaster in the form of an anarchic breakdown of their regimes. And they don't seem to be aware of this -- they are sleepwaliking forward, apparently convinced that their legitimacy is unquestionable."

All done in the name of multiculturalism and political correctness. Mustn't offend the easily (and excitable!) offended, don't you know.