Comments | jukeboxhound: fic: this grey house where I come from (avengers, steve/tony)

jukeboxhound

fic: this grey house where I come from (avengers, steve/tony)

Aug 18, 2012 18:54

You know how people sometimes try emotional catharsis through fic? Well, there wasn't much of a catharsis, but here you go. I honestly no idea what the answer is to this sort of thing, whether Steve is right or Tony is, so take away your own interpretation. Thank god for relative anonymity on the Internet ahaha.

this grey house where I come from
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- fic, t: oneshot, f: avengers, p: steve rogers/tony stark

Comments 3

etrix August 19 2012, 04:13:59 UTC

It may not have been rape, in that Tony never said no, but it sure as hell was abusive.

This was gut-wrenching, and completely in keeping with what we've seen of Tony's character. The abrasive, wise-cracking smart-ass who tries to not take anything seriously could certainly be a cover for past abuse. Your opening note seems to indicate that you or someone you know went through this situation or something similar. I hope not, but if so, then I hope you or the person you know is managing to work through it and rebuild some healthy boundaries.

Actually, the more I think of it, the more I think it was rape. Tony didn't say no, because he knew it wouldn't make any difference. His choice was taken away--emotionally rather than physically, but still: no choice=rape.

jukeboxhound August 19 2012, 04:51:15 UTC

It's something that I haven't been able to find an answer to. Say no and be made to feel guilty, or get yelled at, or treated like you've done something horribly wrong, so wouldn't it be easier to just allow it because, hey, it's like twenty minutes and then it's over and then you can leave. Where's the line for 'rape' and how do you know when you've been pushed over it? Does it trivialize the trauma of sexually abused children or people who have been blatantly assaulted, or does it trivialize your own pain by not calling it rape and kind of handwaving it? I see situations in fic or other media wherein one person (usually female) is portrayed as being reluctant but she still totally wants it, she just needs a bit of nudging and ultimately it's all totally consensual, and my immediate reaction is OH FUCK NO, FUCK YOU ( ... )

zeffy_amethyst August 19 2012, 14:38:44 UTC

I think to call it rape wouldn't be trivialising anyone's situation because to say that would make it some kind of competition? If a person says no, or is clearly reluctant but is co-erced, emotionally manipulated, or threatened (implicit or otherwise), it's non-consensual. And it's wrong. Because I've known too many people who would say "that's not rape, s/he didn't hurt you" when ( ... )