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julia_spring

A&S50 twelve: Hand stitched stripey dress

Sep 12, 2009 06:56

Hand stitched Medieval Middle Eastern dress

Description
This dress is intended for a man or woman of the bourgeoisie class in Cairo during the Fatimid Caliphate (909-1171 C.E.). Judging from the descriptions of garments discussed the Cairo Geniza, I identify this garment as maqta’(1). The maqta’ is described as a common garment like the thawb, but ( Read more... )

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Comments 10

dona_violante September 12 2009, 13:34:03 UTC

Peektures?

julia_spring September 12 2009, 21:50:08 UTC

Pics this evening. :)

I know you use the same pattern layout, how do you justify it?

dona_violante September 13 2009, 00:36:41 UTC

One, count 'em ONE extant garment which is purportedly Moorish: the tunic of Archbishop Rodrigo Ximenez de Rada. Dude was buried with a plethora of clothing, and one of the garments is allegedly Moorish in origin. I latched onto it as a source and have used it ever since. It's roughly the same layout as the child's tunic in Embroideries and Samplers, just with different proportions. It's about 80" around at the chest! I just uploaded it so you can see it. Note that this is a view from the back. This is from al-Andalus: Art of Islamic Spain.

http://pics.livejournal.com/dona_violante/pic/0001we8s/

julia_spring September 13 2009, 01:22:15 UTC

This is Dodds, right? I know there is another one, in a book on textile conservation. The book was available before 1999, and the tunic needed a special structure built because the arms aren't straight, so one arm hangs higher than the other. There's tablet weaving on that too. A girlfriend had it years ago, and that's all I remember about it.

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from Sol anonymous September 14 2009, 15:44:33 UTC

Thanks for the invite! I couldn't access the page from home though, so now I'm at work. I am afraid that I don't have much to add. I am not disputing a sort of generic pan-Islamic style, but I understand it to be modified according to local climate. And I don't have a good sense of Andalusi climate compared to Cairo or Damascus. I recently scanned the image of two gentlemen above from the Maqamat al-Hariri in Ettinghausen. I haven't looked at Ellis yet.

Re: from Sol julia_spring September 14 2009, 16:23:51 UTC

Your inability to access might be that it took me an hour to remember to turn on anonymous comments. Sorry.

Re: from Sol anonymous September 16 2009, 02:54:43 UTC

Maybe, but I think it more likely that my computer's security settings are the problem. Track my IP all you want!