Okay, so my first point of frustration is this silly mac I'm on at the University library, but as it isn't the focus of this post, I will move on
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I agree that both of them could do a good Buffy movie with original ideas and concepts. I wasn't actually trying to claim that all female writers focus on romance because in the fanfiction world, as in the real one, that is obviously not the case. I'm just afraid that with bad romances like Twilight as a jumping off point, this new Buffy movie could easily devolve into straight romance
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Yes. To everything you said. Slow clap of fleetwide appreciation.
Also, NGL, I laughed and laughed at Whedon's email response to the news. Joss can be and often is an asshole, but dammit, he's our asshole, you know?
It hasn't even been ten years since the series went off the air, and the comics are still continuing. On some level I appreciate the industry's desire to, ah, bleed the vampire craze dry, but couldn't somebody at least come up with something else? I've been laughing my ass off at Reasoning With Vampires, which tells me that it can't even be that difficult to come up with The Next Best Teen Vampire Novel. Maybe I'll write one this afternoon! I've got some time!
I feel like what I'm basically saying is "Damn you kids, get off my lawn," but hey, that's how I feel. Sigh. Inappropriate icon is inappropriate, but alas, it was the only BtVS-related icon I had.
Please, do write the latest vampire romance this afternoon. It will save me from looking at resumes or students' papers, and it will be sufficiently tongue in cheek to make me laugh my ass off.
I think it was the Pride and Prejudice and Zombies books and others like it that really marked the end of this stuff being fun and entertaining for me. It seemed like such a hilarious idea, and I'm sure the movie will be funny as hell, but the book was just painful to try and read.
Yep, I'm tired of vampires. Why not just have straight forward old men as sexual predators in teen fiction? It'd be "ground breaking," twisted, and creepy, and therefore actually succeed in reinventing this genre.
actually, that idea is too creepy for words. blech.
And I have no idea what you are talking about with an inappropriate icon . . . because, no, I do not have one just like it, why do you ask?
"This morning, as our Plucky Teen Girl Protagonist (insert dreamy name here: for maximum melodrama, the author suggests you pick something flowy and mellifluous, something that has at least as many vowels as it has consonants) locked the front door behind her and set off down the sidewalk, she was certain of one thing: she would meet no vampires on the way to school today."
I think it's a good start. ;)
Meanwhile, oh my various gods, a novel like that would be the creepiest ever, but...holy shit, if it was about ladies dispensing vigilante justice against sexual predators? o_O I would probably read it.
ooh, I like our creepy novel idea. Can the ladies dispensing justice be stay at home moms who patrol the neighborhood in minivans by day while reading bed time stories and looking out for neighborhood predators at night?
You know, somewhat like Desperate House Wives, but instead of perfect hair, they all go armed with baseball bats and yard tools and generally kick ass?
And for our random teen vamp novel, how about we actually name the heroine Mellifluous? She can be the common outsider and rebel teen with a heart of gold, but constantly misunderstood by her parents and peers. And why was she sure that she would meet no vampires on the way to school today? Because she decided not to go to school, but is instead going to serve food at a breadline, where she meets a homeless vampire, who has a broken fang.
"Watching actors that had been on Joss programs in other shows fills me with painful incredulity. With very few exceptions, the characters that these actors portray are static husks that, due to type casting, tend to mimic their Joss-verse characters but with all the depth of a cardboard cut out"
Do you consider Fillion as Castle as falling into that category? (yes, one of the main plotlines of the show is romance-related, but they have, IMO, built strong characters and character development beyond the silly romance cliches.)
Most of the time, I do feel like Nathan Fillion is just playing up the campy version of Mal. There are some unique characteristics, like being very metro, that are all unique to the Castle character, which helps distinguish him from Mal, and Fillion (happily) doesn't have the stiff unnaturalness that the other Whedon actors tend to show in their roles without Whedon directing
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I have to wonder if the similarities between Mal and Castle are due to Nathan instilling some of his OWN characteristics into each character.
Granted, I don't personally know Nathan Fillion as a person, myself. But he just seems that way from the impressions I've gotten from his twitter, commentaries/interview banter, and what other cast/crew members have said about him.
I suppose one could argue that that represents limited ACTING ability, adding the actors personal characteristics to the roles, but as I enjoy those characteristics that are added, I can't complain about it.
My favorite quote from the Firefly commentary was when Morena Baccarin said, "Joss was really mean to us as a director. We would do a take and it would be fine, but then Joss would say, "Okay, that was good, but let's run it again, and this time, try, oh, I don't know, acting.""
I think that the persona that Nathan Fillion puts forth online and in different programs is interesting. I just think his acting is better and shows great character when Joss directs him.
I think we've both figured out that I can complain about anything, even, or especially things that I actually enjoy.
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Also, NGL, I laughed and laughed at Whedon's email response to the news. Joss can be and often is an asshole, but dammit, he's our asshole, you know?
It hasn't even been ten years since the series went off the air, and the comics are still continuing. On some level I appreciate the industry's desire to, ah, bleed the vampire craze dry, but couldn't somebody at least come up with something else? I've been laughing my ass off at Reasoning With Vampires, which tells me that it can't even be that difficult to come up with The Next Best Teen Vampire Novel. Maybe I'll write one this afternoon! I've got some time!
I feel like what I'm basically saying is "Damn you kids, get off my lawn," but hey, that's how I feel. Sigh. Inappropriate icon is inappropriate, but alas, it was the only BtVS-related icon I had.
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I think it was the Pride and Prejudice and Zombies books and others like it that really marked the end of this stuff being fun and entertaining for me. It seemed like such a hilarious idea, and I'm sure the movie will be funny as hell, but the book was just painful to try and read.
Yep, I'm tired of vampires. Why not just have straight forward old men as sexual predators in teen fiction? It'd be "ground breaking," twisted, and creepy, and therefore actually succeed in reinventing this genre.
actually, that idea is too creepy for words. blech.
And I have no idea what you are talking about with an inappropriate icon . . . because, no, I do not have one just like it, why do you ask?
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I think it's a good start. ;)
Meanwhile, oh my various gods, a novel like that would be the creepiest ever, but...holy shit, if it was about ladies dispensing vigilante justice against sexual predators? o_O I would probably read it.
MOAR GILES GIGGLES = NEVER A BAD THING
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You know, somewhat like Desperate House Wives, but instead of perfect hair, they all go armed with baseball bats and yard tools and generally kick ass?
And for our random teen vamp novel, how about we actually name the heroine Mellifluous? She can be the common outsider and rebel teen with a heart of gold, but constantly misunderstood by her parents and peers. And why was she sure that she would meet no vampires on the way to school today? Because she decided not to go to school, but is instead going to serve food at a breadline, where she meets a homeless vampire, who has a broken fang.
*snickers*
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Do you consider Fillion as Castle as falling into that category?
(yes, one of the main plotlines of the show is romance-related, but they have, IMO, built strong characters and character development beyond the silly romance cliches.)
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Granted, I don't personally know Nathan Fillion as a person, myself. But he just seems that way from the impressions I've gotten from his twitter, commentaries/interview banter, and what other cast/crew members have said about him.
I suppose one could argue that that represents limited ACTING ability, adding the actors personal characteristics to the roles, but as I enjoy those characteristics that are added, I can't complain about it.
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I think that the persona that Nathan Fillion puts forth online and in different programs is interesting. I just think his acting is better and shows great character when Joss directs him.
I think we've both figured out that I can complain about anything, even, or especially things that I actually enjoy.
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