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juno_domina

Here here! Stolen from kitten_emm

Dec 06, 2005 10:31

A lot has been said about how to prevent rape ( Read more... )

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joybon December 5 2005, 23:44:09 UTC

yes yes yes.

juno_domina December 6 2005, 00:48:44 UTC

I like the fact that someone finally pointed out that it's personal choice on the part of the perpetrator, rather than saying all things women should do differently. I'm glad that, at least here in the ACT, it is a crime to intoxicate a womann for the purpose of sex/ 'have sex' with a woman when she's too incoherent to make any sort of decision informed or otherwise. I've never seen how either are any different to rape, other than the fact that they may be less (physically as opposed to sexually) violent.

joybon December 6 2005, 02:20:50 UTC

again, yes.
This violation, this crime, makes me madder than anything else.
Most of the court judgements are SO BAD. The assumptions these white middle aged men make about what is OKAY and NATURAL and INEVITABLE makes me want to be violent.
ewww

juno_domina December 6 2005, 02:30:43 UTC

Exactly. To be honest (along with torture) it's at the very top of my 'worst crimes' list. What they don't understand (or care about) is the fact that the effects last so long after the initial attack, it's not something you just 'get over', it's something you internalise and blame yourself for etc, and it affects the way in which yuo interact with men in the future (or anyone, for that matter, in a relationship/physical sense). *snarl*

gwyon_bach December 6 2005, 12:39:41 UTC

Snurched and posted.

Had a scary, scary experience on Sat'day night, not that disimilar to this topic, a wee little drunken DV incident. Scary shit.

juno_domina December 6 2005, 23:06:58 UTC

*shudders* Yeah, I was really pissed at a letter I got yesterday crapping on about the 'war against men' and how women commit more domestic violence than men. *NB- which is not to insult or leave unakcnoledged the fact that women are perpetrators too, just to dispute the idea of MORE likely to be violent*. You guys just about got a very very very long rant, but I decided not to on the basis that none of the men on my Friends list needed a lecture in womens history.

Next door? Yuck. Hope you're feelin' all right though...hey- set me a coffee date for natter!

gwyon_bach December 7 2005, 13:54:32 UTC

Friday & Saturday are doable. You may wanna arrnge things via phone, as I'm not gonna be near the net too much the next few days.

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juno_domina December 7 2005, 01:41:28 UTC

Good for her! Sometimes what frightens me more than anything is the amount of times women themselves make excuses for men doing stuff like that. I had a really horrible incident not long ago that involved a similar situation, and all the women who knew the female involved sat aroud and blamed her, and came up to me afterwards saying shit like "but she was lying about it, wasn't she" and "he doesn't seem like the type" etc- and this was a person they all knew well. Now this incident is, morally and ethically, a really difficult one- quite aside from the basic facts of what happened which even I'm not clear on, but whatever the case, to respond in that way is despicable. It's not even that they have to be judgemental of the guy if they aren't certain, they just have to suppoert her and keep their mouths shut.

day_saving_geek December 7 2005, 04:43:08 UTC

Nothing justifies acting wrongly to another. Two wrongs *never* make a right.

Like this needs to be said... jaigyn December 7 2005, 07:53:37 UTC

Rape is most horrible form of abuse on human can do to another ( ... )

Re: Like this needs to be said... juno_domina December 7 2005, 22:41:33 UTC

I don't think the post is intended to deter anyone as such, I think it's intended to make it clear that this is the viewpoint you hold on the matter- and frnkly, with a journal that isn't Friends Only, anyone can read it. And if some guy, who normally doesn't even think about the issue goes, 'yeah, actually, good one'- then that's great. I also think the post is intended to discourage, not so much rape itself, as the prevalent attitude that 'she must have done something to deserve it ( ... )